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Ka-pi96 said:
sc94597 said:
theprof00 said:
That seems like it goes against anti-competition laws.

Why? The article states that Verizon, AT&T, TimeWarner, and DirectTV don't do this. Anti-competition would be if they collaborated on this, and obviously HBO/Time Warner (owns HBO) wouldn't be happy because they want more people to subscribe to their content. 

Isn't American internet kind of segregated though? Like, each company has its own areas where there is like no competition?

This is television, not internet. You have at least three-four options depending where you live. Here we have Comcast, Verizon, Direct TV, and Dish which provide HBO content. Internet is an entirely different matter. The last two just lease off of Verizon internet (or provide shitty satelite service.)  Right now because of a dispute with comcast, I tether from my phone's unlimited 4G LTE data plan. Still haven't been reprimanded for it. 



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binary solo said:
aLkaLiNE said:
Then what was all that hocus pocus about net nuetrality for? That doesn't sound nuetral to me.

How is this not an anti-competitive practice?

Because anti-competitive practices require two (or more) companies to collude with one another, and that isn't happening here. There is just one company providing a shitty service, and a bunch of other ones providing a decent service. 



sc94597 said:
theprof00 said:
That seems like it goes against anti-competition laws.

Why? The article states that Verizon, AT&T, TimeWarner, and DirectTV don't do this. Anti-competition would be if they collaborated on this, and obviously HBO/Time Warner (owns HBO) wouldn't be happy because they want more people to subscribe to their content. 

Erm, perhaps because Comcast is blocking it because it has its own set top box with Xfinity that they want you to buy in order to be able to access HBOGo. Hence they are trying to force you to buy their thing by bloccking access through a device you already own. Thus anti-competetive behaviour. And even worse if Comcast is not blocking the same from other console platforms, which would only be at the behest of some sort of deal with other console makers, which makes it anti-competetive on 2 fronts.



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binary solo said:
sc94597 said:

Why? The article states that Verizon, AT&T, TimeWarner, and DirectTV don't do this. Anti-competition would be if they collaborated on this, and obviously HBO/Time Warner (owns HBO) wouldn't be happy because they want more people to subscribe to their content. 

Erm, perhaps because Comcast is blocking it because it has its own set top box with Xfinity that they want you to buy in order to be able to access HBOGo. Hence they are trying to force you to buy their thing by bloccking access through a device you already own. Thus anti-competetive behaviour. And even worse if Comcast is not blocking the same from other console platforms, which would only be at the behest of some sort of deal with other console makers, which makes it anti-competetive on 2 fronts.

Comcast would likely argue that they're not blocking a service, just that they're not providing one (you need to use your Comcast account with an HBO subscription.) Using your logic though, are video game exclusives anti-competitive? 



Isn't that in violation of the new net neutrality rules, or have they not taken effect yet?



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Ka-pi96 said:
sc94597 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
sc94597 said:
theprof00 said:
That seems like it goes against anti-competition laws.

Why? The article states that Verizon, AT&T, TimeWarner, and DirectTV don't do this. Anti-competition would be if they collaborated on this, and obviously HBO/Time Warner (owns HBO) wouldn't be happy because they want more people to subscribe to their content. 

Isn't American internet kind of segregated though? Like, each company has its own areas where there is like no competition?

This is television, not internet. You have at least three-four options depending where you live. Here we have Comcast, Verizon, Direct TV, and Dish which provide HBO content. Internet is an entirely different matter. The last two just lease off of Verizon internet (or provide shitty satelite service.)  Right now because of a dispute with comcast, I tether from my phone's unlimited 4G LTE data plan. Still haven't been reprimanded for it.

No, this is internet. This is Comcast we are talking about, it may be a television service they are blocking but they are doing it as the ISP. If there is little to no competition in ISPs then how do people get around that?

From what I can tell, if my friend came over with their Verizon account and I had a PS4 connected to Comcast internet they can log in and access their account on my PS4. So, yes, it is television. You subscribe through your television provider to HBO, and they allow you to use that account and subscription with the app. 



Ka-pi96 said:
sc94597 said:
binary solo said:

Erm, perhaps because Comcast is blocking it because it has its own set top box with Xfinity that they want you to buy in order to be able to access HBOGo. Hence they are trying to force you to buy their thing by bloccking access through a device you already own. Thus anti-competetive behaviour. And even worse if Comcast is not blocking the same from other console platforms, which would only be at the behest of some sort of deal with other console makers, which makes it anti-competetive on 2 fronts.

Comcast would likely argue that they're not blocking a service, just that they're not providing one (you need to use your Comcast account with an HBO subscription.) Using your logic though, are video game exclusives anti-competitive?

But they clearly are blocking a service. It says in the OP that all the other internet providers do allow access to it, so why don't they?

HBO providers, not internet providers. It says nothing about Comcast blocking somebody with an HBO subscription through another company using their Comcast internet to watch content. Unless there is some missing information that I am missing? 



It's not just Playstation. Comcast has blocked Amazon Fire TV and their response for the blocking is "business decisions".

Rumor is that they ask for a sum of money to allow it on a device. This actually really helped the net neutrality case, as the shady practices already exist.

I still use my Xbox 360 as my cablebox for my bedroom. It's great for that purpose.



Ka-pi96 said:
sc94597 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

No, this is internet. This is Comcast we are talking about, it may be a television service they are blocking but they are doing it as the ISP. If there is little to no competition in ISPs then how do people get around that?

From what I can tell, if my friend came over with their Verizon account and I had a PS4 connected to Comcast internet they can log in and access their account on my PS4. So, yes, it is television. You subscribe through your television provider to HBO, and they allow you to use that account and subscription with the app. 

Oh really? Ok, I'll admit that is different and isn't as bad as I thought then.

I'm not certain, but that was my assumption. Usually these subscription things require a log in from your cable company, and that is probably how comcast is "blocking" the service, by not allowing you to use your comcase username/password. 



Well if you guys in the states have that many alternatives, why stay with comcast?