Ostro said:
kdognumba1 said:
the online is still severely lacking. Sure the Wii U's online is much MUCH better then Wii's but it still would have been considered worse then a launch 360's back in 2005. Yes, Wii U's online doesn't even have features that were made standards back in 2005...... it's 2015.
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This could be a valid point (if more people think like this) but as I see it, the 360 is still unrivaled in terms of online. Even the One lacks standards that the 360 had at launch and they are slowly adding them (no good party chat, no quick friends access, achievements not working properly until today, ...) with their monthly updates. All current consoles are kinda weak and not ahead of its time but way behind.
So based on that, Nintendo has added cross buy so they have some standards implemented but lack others, just like MS and Sony do. But that's the way brands work. As soon as a brand/company has a bad reputation in one out of 100 arguments it will keep it for years to come even if it's no longer true or shared with other companies.
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The other thing you have to look at here is, though everything you said is true, all 3 console companies competition isn't just the other console companies, it's also all devices that people can play games on. If a parent is going out and buying their kid an Apple or Android device that can play games on it, more then likely they're not going to get that kid a dedicated gaming device. Same can be said for that parent or adults in general who is building a gaming grade PC.
On PC's and mobile devices, you don't have to wonder if things are cross buy, or if you can invite your friends to the games, or if your games are tied to your accounts, or if can chat with friends while you play your games, etc. No, they have all these features built in and they work. If I buy Dungeon Defenders on Steam for instance, I know I can run it on my Mac or my PC with 1 single purchase, I can invite my friends to play with me, friends can also jump in and play with me when they see me on, I can type chat with friends in game, I can use Steams built in messaging service to text chat or voice chat with friends, I can have skype or another service to chat with friends, I can redownload and play my game at any time on anythings that's Steam enabled so I won't have to send my old and new computer to Valve to get my game(s) put back on it, and there's no region restrictions.... These aren't even the big things either that I can talk about when I got the game, no, just basic features that you'd expect from all modern online gaming services.
This is an area that the consoles are lacking but especially Nintendo systems. Back in 2005, the Wii U's online could have gotten by and wouldn't have been a big deal. In 2015 when the competition includes all these other options for people to get and play games, it's a huge deal. This is no longer just a hardware issue, this is a straight up service issue. I can't invite my friends to play with me, I can't communicate when I play online via voice or text chat in most Nintendo games, there's no cross game chat at all, if something happens to my system I'll lose my games forever, none of my virtual console games work across all my Nintendo devices, and the systems are region locked. Again, it's 2015... not 2005.... The Wii U gamepad and 3DS have everything they need built in to have an awesome online experience, I mean heck they have a freaking mic and software keyboard built into both of them. There's no excuse at this point.