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Conegamer said:
No surprises here. Such sites should not be included in Metacritic though; particularly if there's evidence.

That's true. But the problem becomes extremely hard to get away from due to the outlier reviews getting the most attention. Take a game that is widely reviewed at 7/10-8/10.  Extreme fans of a series/platform/dev/whatever will point at the review or two that have it as a 10/10. Haters of the same will point at the one or two reviews that have it as a 3/10 or something way out of left field. So essentially those that are corrupt enough to post a completely bogus review can gain huge numbers of clicks, while more honest reviews get overlooked somewhat. This is obviously a very simplified view, and there ARE certainly exceptions to this, but I honestly believe that most 'extreme' outlier reviews are absolutely BS.

But speaking of exceptions, a difference of opinion in what a score means can explain some of them. For example, in modern metarcritic terms, a 5/10 is pure garbage. But someone might view a 5/10 as 'average'. If that person gives 5/10s to most standard fare titles, and very few 8/10 and above or very few 3/10 and below, then they are probably using the entire number scale effectively. Whereas someone who constantly throws out 8/10 and 9/10 scores for generic games might never ever even go below 6/10 in a rating and view that 6/10 as their harshest criticism for a broken game. I still think there are more clickbait bad ratings than there are honest interpretations of 'full-scale' reviewers.



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Well fuck! Yeah I guess I will just rely on a few key sites then...



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I give this thread a 3/10 because I'm an attention whore and I'm flat out broke.

No, but seriously...

Conspiracy confirmed? What's being done here is bad for the gaming industry. So these guys purposely giving low review scores are bad for the industry. To hell with them. If you cannot attract readers by legit mean, then you are illegit. This just screws everyone else up.



Arkaign said:
Conegamer said:
No surprises here. Such sites should not be included in Metacritic though; particularly if there's evidence.

That's true. But the problem becomes extremely hard to get away from due to the outlier reviews getting the most attention. Take a game that is widely reviewed at 7/10-8/10.  Extreme fans of a series/platform/dev/whatever will point at the review or two that have it as a 10/10. Haters of the same will point at the one or two reviews that have it as a 3/10 or something way out of left field. So essentially those that are corrupt enough to post a completely bogus review can gain huge numbers of clicks, while more honest reviews get overlooked somewhat. This is obviously a very simplified view, and there ARE certainly exceptions to this, but I honestly believe that most 'extreme' outlier reviews are absolutely BS.

But speaking of exceptions, a difference of opinion in what a score means can explain some of them. For example, in modern metarcritic terms, a 5/10 is pure garbage. But someone might view a 5/10 as 'average'. If that person gives 5/10s to most standard fare titles, and very few 8/10 and above or very few 3/10 and below, then they are probably using the entire number scale effectively. Whereas someone who constantly throws out 8/10 and 9/10 scores for generic games might never ever even go below 6/10 in a rating and view that 6/10 as their harshest criticism for a broken game. I still think there are more clickbait bad ratings than there are honest interpretations of 'full-scale' reviewers.

Maybe there should be a standart metacritic rules for the points they assigne. like:

Story _______ __________________________________2/10

Gameplay mechanics  ____________________________3/10

graphics/framerate ______________________________2/10

Fidelity/bugs ___________________________________2/10

Hacked day one dlc/ preorder bonus/ micritransations __1/10

An example only, but sites who submit a review should avide by these scores and show each score and the acumulitative. This would also help in people who mainly buy games for the story, gameplay, graphics or whatever their preference is.



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Turkish said:
You cant call it journalism, most in the business dont have a journalism degree. They are bloggers. That 2/10 The Order 1886 review was awful, no one in good faith could have given such a score. There is nothing broken with the game, for a game to receive such score it should be an unplayable mess.

Yeah;  being allowed to use a keyboard and write a '''review''', posted on Metacritic does not make you a professional reviewer or a journalist.

Lately this word 'journalism' is severely abused;   I agree with you.



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simple solution: make a site called nude reviews. there you can be honest and don't have to worry about clicks.



eva01beserk said:
Arkaign said:
Conegamer said:
No surprises here. Such sites should not be included in Metacritic though; particularly if there's evidence.

That's true. But the problem becomes extremely hard to get away from due to the outlier reviews getting the most attention. Take a game that is widely reviewed at 7/10-8/10.  Extreme fans of a series/platform/dev/whatever will point at the review or two that have it as a 10/10. Haters of the same will point at the one or two reviews that have it as a 3/10 or something way out of left field. So essentially those that are corrupt enough to post a completely bogus review can gain huge numbers of clicks, while more honest reviews get overlooked somewhat. This is obviously a very simplified view, and there ARE certainly exceptions to this, but I honestly believe that most 'extreme' outlier reviews are absolutely BS.

But speaking of exceptions, a difference of opinion in what a score means can explain some of them. For example, in modern metarcritic terms, a 5/10 is pure garbage. But someone might view a 5/10 as 'average'. If that person gives 5/10s to most standard fare titles, and very few 8/10 and above or very few 3/10 and below, then they are probably using the entire number scale effectively. Whereas someone who constantly throws out 8/10 and 9/10 scores for generic games might never ever even go below 6/10 in a rating and view that 6/10 as their harshest criticism for a broken game. I still think there are more clickbait bad ratings than there are honest interpretations of 'full-scale' reviewers.

Maybe there should be a standart metacritic rules for the points they assigne. like:

Story _______ __________________________________2/10

Gameplay mechanics  ____________________________3/10

graphics/framerate ______________________________2/10

Fidelity/bugs ___________________________________2/10

Hacked day one dlc/ preorder bonus/ micritransations __1/10

An example only, but sites who submit a review should avide by these scores and show each score and the acumulitative. This would also help in people who mainly buy games for the story, gameplay, graphics or whatever their preference is.

I would do in the old way, so that you can't give a 2/10 to a game which is very polished with amazing graphics, art design, sound.

So, give a mark to :

1) Graphics/Art Design

2) Sound

3) Gameplay and controls

4) Story/Story telling

5) Longevity/Value/Bugs-glitches

In this way you can't cheat too much.

Take The Order 1886 : 

my Marks : 

1) Graphics/Art Design = 9.5/10

2) Sound = 9.5/10

3) Gameplay and controls : 7/10

4) Story/Story telling : 8/10

5) Longevity/Value/Bugs-glitches : 6/10

The average is 8/10 ! 

Let's make another one, just an example, of someone who didn't like that much the Gameplay/story and story telling, and he was mad because the Game was a bit short  :

1) Graphics/Art Design = 9.5/10

2) Sound = 9/10

3) Gameplay and controls : 6/10

4) Story/Story telling : 6/10

5) Longevity/Value/Bugs-glitches : 4/10

The Average is 6.9/10.

No way, no way you give a 2/10 or a 3/10 to a polished Game like The Order 1886 !

This method would help a lot.



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Nate4Drake said:
Turkish said:
You cant call it journalism, most in the business dont have a journalism degree. They are bloggers. That 2/10 The Order 1886 review was awful, no one in good faith could have given such a score. There is nothing broken with the game, for a game to receive such score it should be an unplayable mess.

Yeah;  being allowed to use a keyboard and write a '''review''', posted on Metacritic does not make you a professional reviewer or a journalist.

Lately this word 'journalism' is severely abused;   I agree with you.

since when do you need to study journalism to be a journalist? most reviews arent made by people who have studied journalism.

and living from the money that you make with the reviews makes you a professional reviewer.

sure, journalist should study journalism for skills and ethic, but lets be real, most of the shady persons in the gaming media are journalist with degree.

angry joe doesnt sleep with developers or talks shit just to get more ad cash...



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So reviewers wouldn't take money to write a good review, right? *Cough cough* BF4