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Everything went, as far as game design, well as what the developers wanted it to be. So to them there's no mistake on that. They've accomplished the game they had in mind. However, it just didn't translated well to many consumers/gamers. They simply just don't like it.



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I believe Ready At Dawn should be commended for taking on a big project; especially this being their first venture into the console space. Provided if there is enough sales for it, I can see Ready At Dawn doing a sequel to fix their mistakes. Overall, I think when gamers have it in their hands, they may end up feeling the same.



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misty_falls said:
Everything went, as far as game design, well as what the developers wanted it to be. So to them there's no mistake on that. They've accomplished the game they had in mind. However, it just didn't translated well to many consumers/gamers. They simply just don't like it.

We actually do not know this yet. Plus if you look at the bulk of the reviews, they are mostly in the 70+ range and many of them actually look forward to a sequel.

It comes off more as a "It's not a bad game, but it could have been so much more" kind of response overall, from what I gather anyways.

 

Also remember, the game is moving well in terms of pre-orders, especially on Amazon, and this is even after a year long battle against negative press.

It's anybodies guess how this ends up commercially.



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spemanig said:
Euphoria14 said:

So not exactly a cliffhanger but just a disappointing ending. That's a shame. Maybe they will have some post ending DLC to ease the pain of that wound.

 

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Yeah, that pretty much is it. I've seen a lot of people saying it's baiting a sequel, but I don't see that at all. There's nothing about the way it ends that makes you feel like the ever intended to answer any of the, pretty major, loose ends. It halfway feels like they thought no one would care about the answers to a lot of those lose ends with the way they left it.

I also don't know how DLC could fix it. Like I said, it ends very conclusively. The story is finished. It all comes full circle, just in a very weird place for an ending to this particular story, with the way it was set up, and the direction it seemed to be obviously going.

I think it's an incredebly interesting game to disect though. I look forward to your thoughts!

Well, i'm going to give you a glimpse into the future and reveal an excerpt from my impressions.

"Thanks to the games short run time it ends up being only the 2nd PS4 game I have completed this generation." 

 

Yeah, I have little time for games these days, yet I keep buying them anyways. Only game I have completed so far is Diablo 3. I will go against the grain and reveal the 6 hour length as a personal pro.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Was the dig at Dynasty Warriors really necessary?


It wasnta dig. He said it gets unfair scores because it doesnt pander to popular western tastes.

Dynasty warriors 8 is a great game. 

 

As for the order, the gameplay never looked compelling, but niw that i have seen more of the story and characters, both the world and the acting look top notch. I will be getting it on the cheap side.



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fatslob-:O said:
VanceIX said:

Did I ever imply they were?

Consumers fall for hype and pre-order games. There haven't been any blockbuster games over the past 2 months, so people were betting on the Order 1886 to be "that game". It isn't, and beyond the first week or two where pre-order and hype alone carries many games, I doubt it does very well.

It's a brand new IP that has gotten horrible reception from critics and has very little content. I think expecting it to stay afloat long-term is being too optimistic.

Yes you did, by assuming that they know no better of a product their buying your assuming that they aren't conservative of their decisions and that isn't true at all ...

Hype usually only works when the said product turns out to be good ... 

Beyond all this The Order is hardly selling off of hype seeing as it's shrouded in total skepticism pre-release and don't assume that critic's have a similar view to consumers ...

I think you're overestimating just how fast news reaches the average consumer. Most people don't look at game reviews, they just buy games and play them. Most of what they hear is by word of mouth from friends and family. It takes a little while for news of a game being mediocre or bad to get around, it certainly doesn't happen within a few days. Just look at games like Assassin's Creed Unity: the public backlash was big, but the game still did very well for the first week.



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VanceIX said:
fatslob-:O said:

Yes you did, by assuming that they know no better of a product their buying your assuming that they aren't conservative of their decisions and that isn't true at all ...

Hype usually only works when the said product turns out to be good ... 

Beyond all this The Order is hardly selling off of hype seeing as it's shrouded in total skepticism pre-release and don't assume that critic's have a similar view to consumers ...

I think you're overestimating just how fast news reaches the average consumer. Most people don't look at game reviews, they just buy games and play them. Most of what they hear is by word of mouth from friends and family. It takes a little while for news of a game being mediocre or bad to get around, it certainly doesn't happen within a few days. Just look at games like Assassin's Creed Unity: the public backlash was big, but the game still did very well for the first week.

Surprisingly I have found many people who have played Assassin's Creed Unity who told me that despite it's flaws the game was very fun. Actually it ends up being just about everyone I have talked to personally who owns the game. One of them even tried talking me into it, but I wouldn't bite. I got bored in AssCreed4, so no way will I be trying the franchise again.

Unsurprisingly the media and the hardcore gaming community tend to blow things out of proportion. I have seen it all too often over the years, with AssCreed4 and Destiny being the most recent examples.



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fatslob-:O said:
VanceIX said:

Consumers will buy anything for the first few days based soley off of hype. You really expect this to be a long-term seller? Yeah, consumers will have the final say, which is why I expect this game to drop off hard after the first week or two.

Consumers aren't crazed blind people with a gun ... 

As for it been a long term seller I have no idea how it will pan out since there's only a lack of data on this place ...

so please explain me the sales of The Letter



The issue with this game comes down to this.

RAD executed very well what they wanted to do. Reviews and people with different taste just did not like what they did.

Most games below 70 meta have major issues with execution. Or lack any sense of direction.



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VanceIX said:

I think you're overestimating just how fast news reaches the average consumer. Most people don't look at game reviews, they just buy games and play them. Most of what they hear is by word of mouth from friends and family. It takes a little while for news of a game being mediocre or bad to get around, it certainly doesn't happen within a few days. Just look at games like Assassin's Creed Unity: the public backlash was big, but the game still did very well for the first week.

@Bold And that's how it should be because hardly do critics align with the customers ...

It hardly takes a few days to spread news about a product. The word of mouth alone from the consumers all around is enough for them to make a full judgement within five days ... 

AC Unity is a mediocre game ? Umm, not many people share that sentiment and it's first week compared to the rest of the lifetime sales so happen to agree with me ...

And nobody should take game journalism all that seriously since that's not even an accredited profession ...