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HollyGamer said:
haqqaton said:


C'mon guys, what's going on here?

It's wrong, what ever reason you saying it's not logical. You can love Nintendo all you want, but it doesn't mean Iwata is right all the time, you need to respect him as a human that always make a mistake.

Iwata did wrong when he brag all metascore infront of investor,  what Investor need is result of the games sales, Iwata need to prolong his presentation " we have a lot of games with high meta score .......(+) that resulting high sales for console or game " bla...bla..bla...,  If he cannot talk sales then he doesn't need to talk.

You do realize you are the one that's not making any sense here?

Firstly, it is relevant for investors to know that the company that are investing are making quality products? Right? Secondly, this was a small portion of his investor, a huge amount of time was spent on breaking down sales of Amiibo initiative, New 3DS launch and other sales tidbit. You are making it out like Iwata never mentioned sales in the investor meeting.



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http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2014/11/13/ubisoft-stock-plummets-after-botched-assassins-creed-unity-launch/

When a single game's quality can affect the company's stock price, investors are probably very keen to know that the product quality is high. Even if sales and profitability aren't currently spectacular.

As others have said, Nintendo's brand, particularly amongst its core consumer base, is particularly strong right now. To an investor, that is worth hearing.



Wyrdness said:
HollyGamer said:

Define good games in your opinion ???.................   with due all respect i am agree and disagree with what ever your answer because good games had many different meaning for every person, but sales number don't lie and cannot be argue. Is OK if Nintendo brag about meta number (which is unscientific anyway), but Investor is not gamer that care good or not (because what they need is sales ). And maybe they need to get away from the meta score, so they can get a lot of games sales.


Funny how sales stopped lying when it wasn't the Wii selling well, don't matter what you think all that matters is the majorities perception of the games which both critics and consumers consider them to be good overall, no matter your opinion you can never argue that, sales do not dictate quality and vice versa. You clearly know little about investors and you don't want to get into that argument with me because I deal with them on a day to day basis in my job.

Investors aren't just about making money they want to know that the brand is being kept healthy so it can make money in the long term, I'll highlight one flaw to you, you're solely focusing on the Wii U they'd be focusing on the Wii U and 3DS as a whole. As an investor the quality of the product is key factor in your judgement in investing, look up on value investing that Warren Buffet is famous for, even if Nintendo doesn't sell as much as Sony or MS they'll always have a dedicated fanbase who generate more then enough money for them to stay in the markets and in turn make investors money, one factor in that happening has always been the quality of their products. So yes Iwata can highlight product quality.

" which both critics and consumers consider them to be good overall ", to bad it's only  small consumer appreciate their hard work, it's sad

"sales do not dictate quality and vice versa", yup and that's why bragging quality to help covering their sales number is not a good way either.

"You clearly know little about investors and you don't want to get into that argument with me because I deal with them on a day to day basis in my job", How do you know me Lol, do i refuse to argue, because is not worth to argue. if you want to argue by all means please do, and if you brag about how you are expert in this please feel free, i am an investor not people who deal with Investor, so i know about what to be investor is.

"As an investor the quality of the product is key factor in your judgement in investing, look up on value investing that Warren Buffet is famous for, even if Nintendo doesn't sell as much as Sony or MS they'll always have a dedicated fanbase who generate more then enough money for them to stay in the markets and in turn make investors money" , Then are the meta critique give a result on attract more sales and helping their market grow??????? You know this right, it's like you open a gate of many question about how Iwata practice on relying on Meta critique help them with selling their games.



mii-gamer said:
HollyGamer said:
haqqaton said:


C'mon guys, what's going on here?

It's wrong, what ever reason you saying it's not logical. You can love Nintendo all you want, but it doesn't mean Iwata is right all the time, you need to respect him as a human that always make a mistake.

Iwata did wrong when he brag all metascore infront of investor,  what Investor need is result of the games sales, Iwata need to prolong his presentation " we have a lot of games with high meta score .......(+) that resulting high sales for console or game " bla...bla..bla...,  If he cannot talk sales then he doesn't need to talk.

You do realize you are the one that's not making any sense here?

Firstly, it is relevant for investors to know that the company that are investing are making quality products? Right? Secondly, this was a small portion of his investor, a huge amount of time was spent on breaking down sales of Amiibo initiative, New 3DS launch and other sales tidbit. You are making it out like Iwata never mentioned sales in the investor meeting.

"making quality products? Right?" you mean based in metacritique ?", please find a reason why meta critique help Nintendo  sell their game.

"this was a small portion of his investor, a huge amount of time was spent on breaking down sales of Amiibo initiative, New 3DS launch and other sales tidbit. You are making it out like Iwata never mentioned sales in the investor meeting.",  Yup and this is true there is nothing wrong with this, and there is no relation whatsoever with the article i am trying to discuss here.



HollyGamer said:
You mean "small majority "

 

There's no such thing as a small majority. It's either a majority or a minority. Clearly Nintendo's games are enjoyed by the majority of those who play them.



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Skullwaker said:
HollyGamer said:
You mean "small majority "

 

There's no such thing as a small majority. It's either a majority or a minority. Clearly Nintendo's games are enjoyed by the majority of those who play them.

"There's no such thing as a small majority" that's semantic , it doesnt't matter. What matter is you already answer the problem with it.

Skullwaker said:

  Clearly Nintendo's games are enjoyed by the majority of those who play them.

Meta Critique  doesnt help  improve their market growth or their brand awarness, soon all their loyal consumer is getting old and it will difficult for Nintendo selling their game in the future if their product is only living on small market. 



It's amusing that as soon as Nintendo is doing poorly, metacritic doesn't matter and sales are all that matters.



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In the past 3rd parties used metacritic to determine if they should lay off a large set of developers or not. Many times it would also affect developer pay. This admittedly is a negative affect of metacritic on the video game industry. That said... Nintendo doesn't do that and their games are of a higher quality than most of the competition. Using metacritic to hammer that point home is a much more acceptable use - and those articles that say otherwise are totally missing the nuance and are being kind of immature about it in my opinion.



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vivster said:
The problem is not the critic scores but the user scores they are using. Which are only higher than other AAA releases because of specific circumstances. You can be proud that critics like your games but just having less haters on the internet is no achievement of their own.


If you dont hype your game like an idiot and its actually good  then I think thats a pretty good reason to be proud of user scores.
Alot of games get bad scores because they were promising to much and could not deliver. I say bad user scores are well deserved here.



Skullwaker said:
HollyGamer said:
You mean "small majority "

 

There's no such thing as a small majority. It's either a majority or a minority. Clearly Nintendo's games are enjoyed by the majority of those who play them.


51%- Small majority
99%- Huge majority

There is a lot of meaning inbetween those values.