| HollyGamer said: I am more believe vaccine can change and distorted some DNA and RNA factor in human gene, that lead some modification on human behavior and attitude. |
By what mechanism?
| HollyGamer said: I am more believe vaccine can change and distorted some DNA and RNA factor in human gene, that lead some modification on human behavior and attitude. |
By what mechanism?
| melbye said: The big question is why is there mercury in vaccines? I never really understood that |
"Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that has been used for decades in the United States in multi-dose vials (vials containing more than one dose) of some vaccines to prevent their contamination with germs, bacteria and fungi."
"Thiomersal's main use is as an antiseptic and antifungal agent. In multidose injectable drug delivery systems, it prevents serious adverse effects such as the Staphylococcus infection that, in one 1928 incident, killed 12 of 21 children inoculated with a diphtheria vaccine that lacked a preservative.[7] Unlike other vaccine preservatives used at the time, thiomersal does not reduce the potency of the vaccines that it protects.[8]Bacteriostatics like thiomersal are not needed in more-expensive single-dose injectables.[9]"
Morris Kharasch, a chemist at the University of Maryland, filed a patent application for thiomersal in 1927;[34] Eli Lilly later marketed the compound under the trade name Merthiolate.[8] In vitrotests conducted by Lilly investigators H. M. Powell and W. A. Jamieson found that it was forty to fifty times as effective as phenol against Staphylococcus aureus.[8] It was used to kill bacteria and prevent contamination in antiseptic ointments, creams, jellies, and sprays used by consumers and in hospitals, including nasal sprays, eye drops, contact lens solutions, immunoglobulins, and vaccines. Thiomersal was used as a preservative (bactericide) so that multidose vials of vaccines could be used instead of single-dose vials, which are more expensive. By 1938, Lilly's assistant director of research listed thiomersal as one of the five most important drugs ever developed by the company.[8]
- The fact that it's been used for decades, doesn't really jive with the purported autism link, the other thing is, many, many, many more people would be showing up with autism, if vaccines were truly the cause. However, autism has only really exploded since 2000, and Thimerosal has been in use for over 8 decades.
People that do not vaccinate do put other people in danger, mostly toddlers that cannot be vaccinated because of young age (before 2 months, immune system is too weak to take the vacccine) A 6 week toddler died of measles recently, in Ontario. Also, in the end, numbers are the only truth.
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Oh no; this again. Keep it clean in here, folks!
A study on the subject has been made, with over 600 000 children. (by far the largest, thus by far the most credible) They found no correlation whatsoever between vaccination and autism. None! And there are no decently sized (over 100 people) studies to indicate the contrary. It does not matter that here or there a vaccinated child gets symptoms after having received a vaccine, and even if it is your child. In the end, if we look at actual statistics, the report is false. What is the point of discussing this amy further?
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Teeqoz said:
That's how many children per thousand are diagnosed with autism. As you can see, there's a more than 200% increase since 2000. Now I don't know why that is, but it has to be something. |
Correlation does not equal causation. The number of smartphones in households has increased tremendously as well, it doesnt mean they cause autism
| Kane1389 said: Correlation does not equal causation. The number of smartphones in households has increased tremendously as well, it doesnt mean they cause autism |
... or does it?!
DUN DUN DUNNNNN!
I don't think taking a child(ren) from their home is something that should be taken lightly, but situations such as this make me really think about it long and hard. When is it ok to remove someone's child from their home? When does the public health outweigh personal rights? At what point do the at-risk children, and their parents, have some say in this?
As others have pointed out, this is about herd immunity, which protects those who simply cannot be vaccinated. We're talking children at their most vulnerable state, and others who've got worse problems (Children who undergo chemotherapy can't be vaccinated either, though, I'm not sure if it's 100% across the board for any/all chemo).
Additionally, the burden of proof, as always, rests with the accuser, not the accused. Vaccinations and their efficacy have undergone quite a bit of testing pre and post-invention/FDA approval process (And the declines/eradication of some of these diseases are astounding...let's not forget that either). The Autism study that any argument/debate over this topic, started from, was debunked years ago, however because of mouth pieces like Rob Schneider and Jenny McCarthy (the brilliant minds of the 20th century), you've got just enough crazies to have now impacted the herd immunity.
Now, you could ban them from public schools and other high risk areas, like Pediatric facilities, but I feel that unfairly punishes the child. It's not their fault their parents have done this to them. It's the parents who've done this, so whatever course of action should impact the parents the most, imo.
The number of cases of ADD have also exploded in the past two decades in the West; sudden, massive onset of poor genes or simply a change in diagnostics?