Soundwave said:
How is it "anti-consumer" to make a casual game on a casual platform?
If you're going to be angry with these types of games, then be angry also at Nintendo for making a platform aimed primarily at these types of experiences. That is the crux of the Wii brand, that is the type of software it is designed to attract.
iPhone users don't get angry at developers for making casual games, because they know that's what the iOS platform is about primarily.
But for some reason some people love to deride third parties for making violent "dudebros" games, but then turn around and complain when they don't get those same games on the Wii/Wii U even though the design priority for both of those systems is to get casual gamers.
If anything Ubi Soft gave Nintendo more of the time of day than they deserved. The Wii U looked like a dud from the moment they unveiled it, trying to ride out the dying fad of gimmick controllers to appeal to casuals on the console side, yet they still opted to support it with quite a few games and even an exclusive FPS.
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You think I'm mad?, you must have wishful thinking on the old noggin, no I'm not in the least, I was questiong your sanity in general and why you chose to defend a company like ubisoft, note that I'm not actually defending Ninty here so there's logically no reason for you to include me and them together, unless of course you want to show an agressive stance.
ubisoft's track record has been quite poor over the recent years along with their stock levels, they have been known to being anti consumer and release very broken games day 1 acorss multiple platforms (the ones that don't even touch a Ninty console still botched up) and it shows how they see quality.
The thing I'm trying to get at here is how you can question the consumer who by all rights can say and do what they want with their opinion and money but not the publisher/devs, the people that are supposed to be getting said consumers to part with their money and earn good will, the last time I checked the earth did not work the other way around where all opinions are factually wrong and the company is right even if it did have a few good sales within it;s history that can somehow outweigh all the bad from start to end.
I mentioned mobile but you only mentioned Apple, or specifically iphone and their market, one that has nothing to do with ubisoft or ubisoft's ahrdcore games, you didn't answer my question to your stance either with the "go big or go home" and why you take such a massive stance with mobiles, I have seen you talk against most consoles from your post history and you remind me very much like the Escapist user I mentioned before, he even made simmilar threads on that site to support his opinion that most of the time got either banned or warned because it didn't really fit in with the general community, this board is generally more console (with a fraction of PC and a very very tiny of mobile phones) than it ever will be mobile phones, please answer me why your still take that stance even though you generally are not the majority (throw up apple sales data and I'll throw the billions more people on this planet that have no apple device or are part of the "casual" market, you cannot win when there are millions and billions of people not yet on a single side).
From what I can tell the WIi U has some hardcore titles already along with some casual ones, I see no image issue, the only issue I see are the ones trying to clog it up on purpose to fit their agenda like people do with PC, Nintendo and Xbox etc.
See you claim the WIi U was a dud but that implies it's dead or should have died and yet it did not, it's actually sold somewhat well, nothing amazing but it's still alive, it hasn't "dudded" out since it emerged from the gate, you also forgot ubisoft's track record and history when you claimed they gave ninty enough time of day, that's not for you to decide since you clearly don't invest in the Wii U, how would you know Wii U owners opinions if you clearly don't acknowledge them?, that's up to them to decide because clearly they've wanted games like Rayman but Ubisoft goes and delays them even though the Wii U version sold more than who Ubi delayed for, they delayed Watch Dogs and did so little to the game that it;s a worse port than the last gen versions and yet we can get better games like Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Mario kart etc.