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makingmusic476 on 07 March 2008
famousringo said:
makingmusic476 said:
Isn't this expected given the current install bases?

For most of us, yes.

But there are a lot of people who cling to the fantasy that the demographics of the install base are more important than the size of the install base (Wii casuals don't buy games, the 15-25 male hardcore market is the heart of gaming, etc.). The numbers consistantly refute this point.


Demographics do play a heavy role, but not this early in a consoles life.  This is why no game on the ps2 sold more than 15 million, yet there are games on the 360 that have sold to 30-50% of the install base.



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ameratsu on 07 March 2008
Legend11 said:
 Also do those numbers include pack-ins? And I guess a $10 budget game included with a controller = $50-$60 retail game, right?

 exactly. considering a $10 game against $50-$60 games is foolish.



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outlawauron on 07 March 2008

@ Zen

How is brawl going to help Wii third party sales?



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68soul on 07 March 2008
mesoteto said:
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What's funny for the "spin people" up there, is that when you exclude Wii Sports, Wii Play, or Crossbow Training, it doesn't change ANYTHING to the fact 3rd parties sold 875,780 on Wii, which is near as much as Nintendo's 1st party games...

Oh, yeah, but they're all shovelware, right?

Everything's ok, mesoteto, you have your daily dose of stupid anti-Wii bashing, you're fixed?

I'm surprised no smart fanboy came with a "3rd parties don't sell on Wii" yet...

Maybe because 875,780 for Wii 3rd parties is ALSO, more than the total PS3 software sales... but fanboys are very selective these days, they elude all the facts which don't serve their ridiculous bias...

whoa son....did you just try and call me a wii basher....i know your new here so i will cut you a little slack.....just this once......you insult me and my wii again and its cat death for you


First, don't call me son, kid, i'm old enough to be your dad... :)

Second, i'm far from new here, but i'm a very silent guy, at least usually... in this case, i think i should have remained silent...

Cos most important: i'm REALLY SORRY for believing you were a Wii basher...

I'm reading so many anti-Wii comments these days, i just saw yours and thought "oh no, not again"... and for once, i've said to myself I HAD to reply something to such an "outrageous statement"...

And i didn't take the time to see you're actually a Wii owner, with a more or less "good" point... my bad...

(anyway, i still don't agree: most of Wii's software sales are good games, or at least average games, sometimes too casual or family-oriented, ok, but NOT shovelware... but that's not what i wanted to write here)

So once again, SORRY, and no hard feelings i hope...



 

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vaio on 07 March 2008

Somebody just blew the PS3 fanboys fuse with theese numbers.



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MANUELF on 07 March 2008

Wii is the most balanced console, Wii first party sell almost the same than Wii third party sells.



Xyrax on 07 March 2008

Brawl will indirectly help 3rd party sales by forcing Nintendo to ship more Wii's to cover the brawl launch. The more hardware sold in a month, the more software is sold as new buyers buy games to take home and play. As a result of additional hardware being shipped for Brawl, software will be up across the board for the month of March on the Wii. And that will benefit both first and third party sales.

This scenario is amplified in effect when you are talking about a console that is supply constrained at retail like the Wii is now.



Renar on 08 March 2008
pakidan101 said:

Interesting.....very interesting....I wonder how each of the company's PR is going to spin this around....

Nintendo: I told you third-party games sell!!!! But nooooo you wouldn't listen.....

Microsoft: First-party game sales are okay....but look at third-party sales!!!! It's massive!!!

Sony: ................... .................. .................... whatever.............


 And to the third party developers they are saying:

Nintendo:  Put in a little bit of development money, get out a lot.

Microsoft:  You don't need to put out a full game.  With RROD, no gamer will make it that far.

Sony: Don't worry about costs.  Our fanboys don't count a game as a game unless it costs more than $30 million to make.



Torturing the numbers.  Hear them scream.

Mars on 08 March 2008

What i see is 3rd pArtry doing great on 360 and PS3 and failing to out do a couple niN games on the wii.

can any one do % for sales.

And user base to software.



famousringo on 08 March 2008
makingmusic476 said:
famousringo said:
makingmusic476 said:
Isn't this expected given the current install bases?

For most of us, yes.

But there are a lot of people who cling to the fantasy that the demographics of the install base are more important than the size of the install base (Wii casuals don't buy games, the 15-25 male hardcore market is the heart of gaming, etc.). The numbers consistantly refute this point.


Demographics do play a heavy role, but not this early in a consoles life.  This is why no game on the ps2 sold more than 15 million, yet there are games on the 360 that have sold to 30-50% of the install base.


You're somewhat right, though I wonder how much of that was the casual reach of the PS2 and how much was due to the sheer glut of quality titles in every genre. Hasn't its attach ratio overtaken GC and Xbox by now? It's still going strong, too.



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