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GribbleGrunger on 15 February 2015
RolStoppable said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Most people do not rush to play a game in order to prove how short it is or to make sure their subscribers don't get bored. 10 - 12 hours represents your normal gamer. The lower times are people with no appreciation of anything but running and gunning through a story driven game with lots of secrets to be found.

How can you be sure that 10-12 hours represents the normal gamer? I am quite sure that you derived your 10-12 hours estimate from GAF members who posted that it took them 10+ hours to play through the game while they took their time, so at the same time they conceded that it's probable that many people will clock in less than 10 hours.

Because nearly everyone who's played the game has said it took the 10 hours or 12 hours with one exception who said 8 hours.

edit: Oh look, another one:

Originally Posted by Theman2k

Around 12 hours on hard. I took my time to enjoy everything like i do when i play for the first time.



 

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sundin13 on 15 February 2015
mornelithe said:
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Like I said, I can't argue in the context of MGS4 as I've never played it. I have played Twin Snakes and that was nothing like the order, but who knows how the series has changed. I highly doubt MGS4 has shooting gallery style segments though, as it is primarily a stealth game...

Anyways, there is nothing wrong with storytelling in games, but games should play to the strengths of the medium. When I read a book that plays to the strengths of cinema, I criticize it, because it just doesn't feel right. Each medium has their strengths and weaknesses, so writing a video game story as if it was a movie is just silly, and constantly breaks the immersion. Like I've said before, things like on screen button presses during tense sequences, or badly implemented fail states just break you right out of the immersion.

Incorrect, as with Hitman Absolution, they removed the stealth focus.  You can play it however you want, run and gun, or stealth as much as possible (there are parts where shooting is required).

Ha, well at least there is some freedom of choice on how you will tackle encounters



mornelithe on 15 February 2015
sundin13 said:
mornelithe said:

Incorrect, as with Hitman Absolution, they removed the stealth focus.  You can play it however you want, run and gun, or stealth as much as possible (there are parts where shooting is required).

Ha, well at least there is some freedom of choice on how you will tackle encounters

It's unfortunate, honestly, because it feels like allot of the stealth games are losing what made them unique in the first place.  Hitman was always about stealth, and so was MGS4.  I mean, I understand why they did it (to bring in more customers), but true stealth games aren't exactly numerous, and run n gun games are pretty much everywhere.  Ya know?  But yeah, there was freedom of choice to some degree.



Skullwaker on 15 February 2015

Just watched several parts of this game on YT. It really seems like one long(?) interactive cutscene with short bursts of shooting in-between. That's cool if you're into that, but I've determined it's not for me.



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Kane1389 on 15 February 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
Kane1389 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

And why you decide the duration of the game? Can you beat it for the first time in 6 hours? Yes, we have seen it (and btw it was not very good to say the least imo) so why you decide that it isn´t the duration? Is the king dressed? Because i´m seen it  nude.

I've seen people beat dark souls 2 in under 1 hour.  What a rip off that game was,right?

Yes, because is the same to make a speedrun of a game that you have played like a thousand times than play it for the very first time and beat it on 5:20 hours.

I´m reading so much nonsense on this thread, now any game is short at all, because you can even finish Ocarina on 20 minutes, so now the duration is so so so relative that makes NO SENSE.


I didnt make any claims about objective lenght of this game. It's you who are judging it's lenght by a skewed play through method.



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Baryonyx on 15 February 2015

The game was finished in 5 hoours, 20 min on a normal, And he played the game as regulare as other people play games. It wasn't speed runned.. if he cheated and cutted the scenes, that truth will come out. I don't believe the game sucks at all, but story games should be above 10 hours or else i feel the price should be cut down to 30$ to make it more justifying.



 

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walsufnir on 16 February 2015
Baryonyx said:
The game was finished in 5 hoours, 20 min on a normal, And he played the game as regulare as other people play games. It wasn't speed runned.. if he cheated and cutted the scenes, that truth will come out. I don't believe the game sucks at all, but story games should be above 10 hours or else i feel the price should be cut down to 30$ to make it more justifying.


I heard cutscenes are unskippable so there is nothing to cut.



Frogger on 16 February 2015

There's a youtube walkthrough of someone who beat it in 5.5 hours, and Gaffers who watched it say that the guy wasn't rushing or playing abnormally.



bigjon on 16 February 2015
walsufnir said:
Baryonyx said:
The game was finished in 5 hoours, 20 min on a normal, And he played the game as regulare as other people play games. It wasn't speed runned.. if he cheated and cutted the scenes, that truth will come out. I don't believe the game sucks at all, but story games should be above 10 hours or else i feel the price should be cut down to 30$ to make it more justifying.


I heard cutscenes are unskippable so there is nothing to cut.


um? deaths? parts where you are looking for stuff? You just upload the segment when you went from cutscene to cutscene cleanly. Its not that hard. Think of it this way. When i play fire emblem if one of my characters die, I resart the battle 95% of the time even if I just spent 30 minutes on it. If I were upload a video of my playthrough I would upload all my successes, not fails.



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Nate4Drake on 16 February 2015
bigjon said:
walsufnir said:


I heard cutscenes are unskippable so there is nothing to cut.


um? deaths? parts where you are looking for stuff? You just upload the segment when you went from cutscene to cutscene cleanly. Its not that hard. Think of it this way. When i play fire emblem if one of my characters die, I resart the battle 95% of the time even if I just spent 30 minutes on it. If I were upload a video of my playthrough I would upload all my successes, not fails.

Exactly.

Here’s How Quickly You Can Beat The Order: 1886 if You Skip Everything You Can

There have been wildly varying accounts on the length of The Order: 1886, but a full playthrough has finally been posted by YouTube user PlayMeThrough, and it’s pretty interesting, because it’s basically a “bare minimum” walkthrough. He doesn’t stop to examine any of the many story-related items that can be found around the game, and almost never dies. 

The full playtime accounts to about five hours and a half, which definitely puts to rest the “rumors” about the game being three hours long. And that’s without enjoying a lot of the content included in Ready at Dawn’s title.

On the other hand, cutscenes cannot be skipped, as they have a lot of interactive elements within. We also learn that you can change difficulty dynamically at any time while you play, without needing to restart a chapter.

Interestingly,  PlayMeThrough himself mentions that the game feels “much longer than it really is,” which is often the case with heavily story-driven games.

Of course, that’s not the time a normal user will take to complete the game, as many would probably need to try quite a few challenging parts a multiple times to achieve this kind of “perfect run,” and most will stop and catch the story clues, which take a reasonable amount of time (and some are absolutely hilarious, especially one in Nikola Tesla’s lab, but I won’t spoil it).

In fact other users that have played the game report over social media and forums times varying between eight and even as long as fifteen hours (for example, one of the first players to achieve the platinum trophy took about nine hours to complete his first playthrough, even if he had to go back to find some collectibles afterwards), if you spend a lot of time getting immersed in the beautiful world, look at everything there’s to look at, and if you die a reasonable amount of times.

That said, no more room for rumors. If you run through the game with full sails, without being sidetracked by story and flavor elements (again, I definitely don’t advise it, but to each his own), and you’re much better at shooters than I am, this is how fast you can make it.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/02/15/heres-how-quickly-you-can-beat-the-order-1886-if-you-skip-all-you-can-and-never-die/

Being able to finish a game in 5 or 6 hours means nothing.

Normal players will spend 8-15 hours to finish it. 



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