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undertrached?

yes !! 79 45.66%
 
no 36 20.81%
 
Hell no!! 57 32.95%
 
Total:172
kowenicki said:
By the way... whilst I have just posted the evidence and said that I agree about the undertracking.

It is still an unmitigated disaster I'm afraid.


Could have been worse. They haven't had to resort to selling hardware at a loss so damage limitation has been pretty well done.

Also managed to muster up the biggest dedicated handheld gaming software lineup on the marked while spending bugger all on any actual software development hahah.



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I'm 90% certain VGC doesn't track PS TV in the USA, judging by the fact that sales actually decreased 2% for the week it released.  And no notable sales bumps since then.

For reference, it sold about 39k in October + November according to NPD.

Since I believe European numbers are based on US numbers for tracking, I'm guessing it might not be tracked in PAL regions either?  Though we did get a 14% increase the week of release in Europe, so maybe not.

 

So there, at least, is some of the tracking discrepancies.  On top of the undertracking in December NPD, we're beginning to get a bit of a better picture.

 

I'm actually a little too tired to check the numbers that you're posting in the OP right now, so I'm just trusting them to be true.  In which case: good, I'm glad to hear it.

Vita is still a disaster for Sony; a misguided product that has objectively failed for them.  But I love mine.  And hearing that it's done a little better than expected, even just in the context of that it was being undertracked here, is very nice to hear.



This undertracking is quite massive when looking from the % perspective... Could possibly be undertracked by like 10%+



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That's great if true. My guess would be besides the undertracking in the US (~120k), Europe is probably way off along with the "Rest of the World".



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Kresnik said:

I'm 90% certain VGC doesn't track PS TV in the USA, judging by the fact that sales actually decreased 2% for the week it released.  And no notable sales bumps since then.

For reference, it sold about 39k in October + November according to NPD.

Since I believe European numbers are based on US numbers for tracking, I'm guessing it might not be tracked in PAL regions either?  Though we did get a 14% increase the week of release in Europe, so maybe not.

 

So there, at least, is some of the tracking discrepancies.  On top of the undertracking in December NPD, we're beginning to get a bit of a better picture.

 

I'm actually a little too tired to check the numbers that you're posting in the OP right now, so I'm just trusting them to be true.  In which case: good, I'm glad to hear it.

Vita is still a disaster for Sony; a misguided product that has objectively failed for them.  But I love mine.  And hearing that it's done a little better than expected, even just in the context of that it was being undertracked here, is very nice to hear.

I have updated the numbers sources :D



                                               

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good better be undertarcked
that bitch deserves to be over 30 million by now :(



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nanzano said:
kowenicki said:
So what do you think the lifetime sales are due to this HUGE undertracking?

This is the graph  until Q2, so assuming that PSP shipment went down form 2011 to 2013 and that ps vita shipment started in Q3 2011 it leaves us to a ~12M Shipment 


12mil Shipment would mean Soooooooooo much on store shelves and i dont see it at all. I doubt its close to 11mil shipped. I'll make a thread about Vita as its the only current gen system we have almost no clue about (in sales+shipments)



BlowoverKing said:
That's great if true. My guess would be besides the undertracking in the US (~120k), Europe is probably way off along with the "Rest of the World".


US was i think about 180k under, but as for Europe+RoW maybe 200k-300k at most imo.



tbone51 said:
nanzano said:
kowenicki said:
So what do you think the lifetime sales are due to this HUGE undertracking?

This is the graph  until Q2, so assuming that PSP shipment went down form 2011 to 2013 and that ps vita shipment started in Q3 2011 it leaves us to a ~12M Shipment 


12mil Shipment would mean Soooooooooo much on store shelves and i dont see it at all. I doubt its close to 11mil shipped. I'll make a thread about Vita as its the only current gen system we have almost no clue about (in sales+shipments)

I still don't understand why you care so much about the vita and I can't tell if you hate it or like it because you don't own one. Anyway I will take my time to explain you. 

1- You know why VGC is so uncertain about ps4 sales?( first undertracked by 1Million and then recently overtracked by the same million) it is simply because they don't know the sale behavior of the R.O.W and I made a comment in december that the ps4 was overcracked at that time based on sony info about the asian market at TGS.

2- VGC says PSVita US 2.2 M  ROW 1.3 M which is wrong because online games like FWs  with WW ranking shows that the Asian market is waayy bigger than we think and bigger than US market, they are simply Handheld market like japan (3.57 Million unit). And for someone who don't play vita games online can't simply know it. So I won't be surprise if the asain market is at 2.5 Million since sony anounced a grow of 25% of ps VITA sales since ps4 launch while the US market of the vita keep falling since 2013



                                               

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nanzano said:
tbone51 said:


12mil Shipment would mean Soooooooooo much on store shelves and i dont see it at all. I doubt its close to 11mil shipped. I'll make a thread about Vita as its the only current gen system we have almost no clue about (in sales+shipments)

I still don't understand why you care so much about the vita and I can't tell if you hate it or like it because you don't own one. Anyway I will take my time to explain you. 

1- You know why VGC is so uncertaint about ps4 sales?( first undertracked by 1Million and then recently overtracked by the same million) ot is simply because they don't know the sale behavior of the R.O.W and I made a comment in december that the ps4 was overcracked at that time based on sony info about the asian market at TGS.

2- VGC says PSVita US 2.2 M  ROW 1.3 M which is wrong because online games like FWs  with WW ranking shows that the Asian market is waayy bigger than we think and bigger than US market, they are simply Handheld market like japan (3.57 Million unit). And for someone who don't play vita games online can't simply know it. So I won't be surprise if the asain market is at 2.5 Million since sony anounced a grow of 25% of ps VITA sales since ps4 launch while the US market of the vita keep falling since 2013

"I still don't understand why you care so much about the vita" Im trying to help you (and DrVita) out because i think your both overshooting the Vita. You remind me of me when i first join but as for me it was Nintendo Related.

As of Now we know vita's undertracked in the US by 200k (2.2mil LTD NPD vs 2.0mil VGC end of 2014)

We have Japan like you said 3.58mil which means officially we have Vita #s at 5.78mil WW in 2 of 3 biggest regions. 

That said looking at the numbers presented, It sure looks like Vita could be undertracked by  ALOT, but thats not the case. I'll present all the numbers including Shipments so we can at least estimate how much vita sold/shipped. We doknow psp is still selling despite Discontinued in Japan (and i think US)

 

Edit: I dont hate the vita. I want 3DS to continue to dominate yes, i want wiiu to dominate ps4 (never happening), but i dont want the vita to simply die. If anything im one of the few who believe Vita actually doing good and believe there will be a successor.