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binary solo on 23 February 2015
Kerotan said:
binary solo said:

It's $60 million in total revenue, with the only significant cut from that being the retailer margin. It would be interesting to see how the risk was shared between Sony and RaD. As a second party there would still be a publishig contract and it could be that Sony takes the majority of the revenue (after retailer margin and distribution costs) until Sony breaks even in its investment, and only then does RaD start to receive a majority of the revenue and Sony just receives the normal platform owner royalties.


What do you reckon the game cost To make? 

No idea. But if the cost, including marketing, is less than $30 million I would be very surprised. If I had to take a stab in the dark I would say $50 million.

If Sony fully funded the game it's possible RaD won't see a dime from sales unless the game achieves some phenomenal sales, like 4 million or something. Which means Sony has taken all the risk on the cost side and so is claiming the vast bulk of reward. If the game cost $50 million to produce and market and that's all on Sony then the game will probably need to sell about 2 million at close to full price for Sony to see it as having been a successful project. But I suspect they could fund a sequel at 1-1.5 million.



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Aura7541 on 23 February 2015
thismeintiel said:

But at what cost?  Look at what this picture is actually showing us.  Even with a $50-$55 price advantage, with 2 free games, the XBO sales were still lower than the PS4's.  What Amazon is showing is now that the initial demand of a $349 XBO has died down incredibly, it will take 3 free games, plus a free 2nd controller, to finally start outselling the PS4.  And for all we know it may not even be by much.  Do you think the top brass at MS, or investors, are going to be okay with that kind of loss, just to increase sales by ~20%, maybe 30%, in a couple of regions?

You'd expect this kind of deal to happen on Black Friday, not in February. If you subtract the costs of all 3 games plus the 2nd controller, you're literally getting an X1 for lower than the price of a PS3.



riecsou on 23 February 2015
BraLoD said:
The Order 1886 still holding very well there!


it is holding very well in amazon hourly on UK (2nd) , Spain  (one at 10 the other one at 41) , German (one at 14 and the other one at 20) and France (one at 4 and the other one at 63) too with average user scores of 4 stars. This game might show some good legs in Europe.



GTAexpert on 24 February 2015
riecsou said:
BraLoD said:
The Order 1886 still holding very well there!


it is holding very well in amazon hourly on UK (2nd) , Spain  (one at 10 the other one at 41) , German (one at 14 and the other one at 20) and France (one at 4 and the other one at 63) too with average user scores of 4 stars. This game might show some good legs in Europe.

Is Amazon big in European countries too? Anyway that is interesting.



Protendo on 24 February 2015

That Xbox One deal might have legs!

Looks like all they needed to do was throw in and additional game and another controller!



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Sweep on 24 February 2015
Protendo said:
That Xbox One deal might have legs!

Looks like all they needed to do was throw in and additional game and another controller!

Amazon only. Not a Ms deal though



tokilamockingbrd on 24 February 2015
Conegamer said:
bananaking21 said:
woooo!!

1000'th post!

Was it worth the ban for spam?

edit- moved the question to the mod thread.

OT- I am glad to see the order doing so well and Majora's Mask.

I wonder how long it will take for Bloodborne to reach the top 20.



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Farsala on 24 February 2015
binary solo said:
Kerotan said:


What do you reckon the game cost To make? 

No idea. But if the cost, including marketing, is less than $30 million I would be very surprised. If I had to take a stab in the dark I would say $50 million.

If Sony fully funded the game it's possible RaD won't see a dime from sales unless the game achieves some phenomenal sales, like 4 million or something. Which means Sony has taken all the risk on the cost side and so is claiming the vast bulk of reward. If the game cost $50 million to produce and market and that's all on Sony then the game will probably need to sell about 2 million at close to full price for Sony to see it as having been a successful project. But I suspect they could fund a sequel at 1-1.5 million.


I would take my stab in the dark and say $30m.

Uncharted 2 and 3 had multiplayer, and generally a bigger game, also developed on the PS3. And it only cost $20m+ marketing.

 

I think similar numbers for The Order since its developed on the PS4 and is a smaller game without multiplayer.



Namiirei on 24 February 2015

Seems like the deal is coming to an end :

" Only 10 left in stock."

Well, i guess Amazon sold a lot of these, it was a better deal than Black friday, so it's normal to jump on it.



Puppyroach on 24 February 2015
thismeintiel said:
Puppyroach said:
As I've said many times before: You sell better by bundling than price reducing. MS have done both now and it seems to be paying off. They should offer three different types of bundles each month and the sales would skyrocket.

But at what cost?  Look at what this picture is actually showing us.  Even with a $50-$55 price advantage, with 2 free games, the XBO sales were still lower than the PS4's.  What Amazon is showing is now that the initial demand of a $349 XBO has died down incredibly, it will take 3 free games, plus a free 2nd controller, to finally start outselling the PS4.  And for all we know it may not even be by much.  Do you think the top brass at MS, or investors, are going to be okay with that kind of loss, just to increase sales by ~20%, maybe 30%, in a couple of regions?

How do you know  it´s a loss?