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When?!?!

Before E3 11 4.10%
 
@ E3 82 30.60%
 
After E3 12 4.48%
 
Never, enjoy HaloforzaGea... 163 60.82%
 
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S.T.A.G.E. on 02 February 2015
Goatseye said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I didn't need Spencer's link, I read it and saw the interview.

Search for Eric Nylund and you'll see everything. It's clear out there, "it ain't hard to tell".


You accused me of spin and I showed you that I wasnt spinning anything with a quote from spencer himself. He admitted that MS failed internally to make a game that could take on Uncharted after multiple attempts. They had to moneyhat Tomb Raider.They didnt need to but if they hadnt it would've been blindingly obvious that Sony had them cornered on exclusives for the year.

To the best o f my knowledge a bible for halo already existed an Nylund was adapting it to novels. Joseph Staten is the primary name that comes up when it comes to Halo's primary development. He left Bungie after destiny to go back to Microsoft. He was originally with Bungie though before MS bought them.



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Trhawk on 02 February 2015

The worst thing to happen to Microsoft first party studios was how well the 360 did vs the ps3.  They didn't seem concerned with nuturing their studios.

Consider the first party studos of Microsoft and Sony that were able to release a game to retail with a 70 Metacritic score or higher since 2011.

Sony:

  • Naughty Dog: (2) Uncharted 3, The Last of Us 
  • Santa Monica: (1) God of War: Ascension
  • San Diego: (4) MLB 11: The Show, MLB 12: The Show, MLB 13: The Show, MLB 14: The Show  - ModNation Racers: Road Trip (Low Metacritic)
  • Sucker Punch: (2) Infamous 2, Infamous Second Son
  • Bend Studio:  (1) Uncharted: Golden Abyss
  • Evolution Studios: (2) MotorStorm: Apocalypse, Driveclub - MotorStorm: RC (Digital only)
  • Guerrilla Games: (2) Killzone 3, Killzone Shadow Fall
  • Media Molecule: (2) LittleBigPlanet 2, Tearaway
  • Guerrilla Cambridge: (1) Killzone: Mercenary
  • London Studio:
  • Japan Studio: (2) Gravity Rush, Puppeteer - Knack(Low Metacritic)
  • Polyphony Digital: (1) Gran Turismo 6
Microsoft:
  • Turn 10: (2) Forza 4, Forza 5
  • 343: (1) Halo 4
  • Team Dakota - (1) Project Spark
  • Rare: (0) Kinect Sports: Season Two(Low Metacritic), Kinect Sports Rivals(Low Metacritic)
  • Lionhead: (0) Fable: The Journey(Low Metacritic), 
  • Blacktusk:
  • PressPlay: (0) Max: The Curse of Brotherhood(Download Only), Kalimba(Download Only)
  • Twisted Pixal: (1) The Gunstringer -Ms. Splosion Man(Download Only), LocoCycle(Low Metacritic, and Download Only)
  • Big Park: (0) Joy Ride Turbo(Low Metacritic, and Download Only)
  • Mojang:
  • Good Science:
  • Funtion Studios:
  • Np Studios:
  • Platform Next:
  • Sota:
  • Launchworks:
  • Soho Productions:
  • Decisive Games:
And unfortunately for Microsoft most of those studios without a release, are making small apps, hologames, or phone games.  Microsoft needs to take a page from Sony's book circa 2007, and either (A) beef up all of their smaller studios into AAA studios, or (B) aquire a bunch of their second party partners like Remedy Entertainment, Playground Games, or Cloudgine.


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PotentHerbs on 02 February 2015
Goatseye said:
PotentHerbs said:

Even then I'd still say it favors Sony first party titles having the userbase advantage WW & NA. 

Userbase is not always the biggest factor.


True but they still have to match God of War 4 & a possible TLoU sequel.  GT + Uncharted vs. Halo + Gears will be even, then all the smaller titles/ mid - tier titles from other Sony first party will outsell whatever MS have coming. IMO Media Molecule could produce a new IP on the scale of Uncharted/ Gears (5 - 6 Million) this gen as well.



SjOne on 02 February 2015
Goatseye said:
PotentHerbs said:


GT = Halo 
Uncharted = Gears 
God of War = ?
TLoU (likely sequel) = ?

Plus whatever MM, GG, Bend, Sony Japan, etc, pumps out, to me it looks like Sony first party sells more.. 

It just looks. You can only tell after LT sales


You can tell now

-The new IP Driveclub sold better than both versions of Forza Horizon 2 combined.

- LittleBigPlanet 3 on PS4 sold better than the higher marketed Sunset Overdrive.

This just goes to show how Sony franchises have better selling power than Microsoft franchises.



plip.plop on 02 February 2015

What do people consider the top 3 franchises for MS, and Sony?
How about doing a side by side comparison in terms or worldwide sales to really see how they stack up against each other.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 02 February 2015
PotentHerbs said:
Goatseye said:

Userbase is not always the biggest factor.


True but they still have to match God of War 4 & a possible TLoU sequel.  GT + Uncharted vs. Halo + Gears will be even, then all the smaller titles/ mid - tier titles from other Sony first party will outsell whatever MS have coming. IMO Media Molecule could produce a new IP on the scale of Uncharted/ Gears (5 - 6 Million) this gen as well.


MS would find an outside developer to make the games. They would make an excuse saying that its too expensive when they do things themselves. Speaks volumes about them compared to everyone else.



LudicrousSpeed on 02 February 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PotentHerbs said:


True but they still have to match God of War 4 & a possible TLoU sequel.  GT + Uncharted vs. Halo + Gears will be even, then all the smaller titles/ mid - tier titles from other Sony first party will outsell whatever MS have coming. IMO Media Molecule could produce a new IP on the scale of Uncharted/ Gears (5 - 6 Million) this gen as well.


MS would find an outside developer to make the games. They would make an excuse saying that its too expensive when they do things themselves. Speaks volumes about them compared to everyone else.

And yet when Sony hires an outside company to make Bloodborne or The Order or Until Dawn, no one cares LOL.

Also, does the forum now auto cut quotes? If so, that's great.



PotentHerbs on 02 February 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PotentHerbs said:


True but they still have to match God of War 4 & a possible TLoU sequel.  GT + Uncharted vs. Halo + Gears will be even, then all the smaller titles/ mid - tier titles from other Sony first party will outsell whatever MS have coming. IMO Media Molecule could produce a new IP on the scale of Uncharted/ Gears (5 - 6 Million) this gen as well.


MS would find an outside developer to make the games. They would make an excuse saying that its too expensive when they do things themselves. Speaks volumes about them compared to everyone else.

And yet when Sony hires an outside company to make Bloodborne or The Order or Until Dawn, no one cares LOL.

Also, does the forum now auto cut quotes? If so, that's great.


Sony is collaborating to make BloodBorne and The Order. Besides Sony's first party production trumps MS first party production. 



Goatseye on 02 February 2015
PotentHerbs said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

And yet when Sony hires an outside company to make Bloodborne or The Order or Until Dawn, no one cares LOL.

Also, does the forum now auto cut quotes? If so, that's great.


Sony is collaborating to make BloodBorne and The Order. Besides Sony's first party production trumps MS first party production. 

Few are the games that MS outsources and don't directly envolve. Only usual business partners have free reign on the development process; that would be Remedy, Epic, etc...

The only games from two companies that you can compare in terms of quality are Halo and Forza, because they have competition in the same genre. And you know how that comparison will go.



Skidmore on 02 February 2015

I hope now that I switched from Sony to MS.



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