WolfpackN64 said:
beeje13 said: Well, doesn't change that modern x86 cores perform better than powerpc cores. X86 has had a massive amount of development effort compared to powerpc. And the paticular cpu in the wiiU is still very old. But that keeps backwards compatibility though. |
Depends, the POWER8 chips stomp all over the intel Xeons.
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The Power8 is the last ditch effort to keep the architecture viable. The big challenges facing it is the lack of a vibrant ecosystem, horrendous yields, and horrendous efficiency/power usage figures. Basically with Power8, IBM chose to cram as much as possible on a die (and arguably THEN some), which results in absolutely abominable yields and fairly ludicrous power/watt figures. It also doesn't perform well unless you feed it optimized code (to be fair, neither would Xeons trying to run emulated PPC code, lol).
In essence, Power8 is a jackhammer made from old melted down cannonballs when you need a sharp chisel (unless you run a datacenter which has existing infrastucture well suited and already up and running on 7+). You must remember that the Power8 is a 22nm product at 250+W TDP, lol.
If Intel desired, they could make a 250W silly chip, but this is not the 20th century any longer. Long ago the desire for efficiency and scalability came into full effect, and you can't effectively cram 250W into an appealing package for a single die product.
Knights landing and HMC will permanently exclude PPC from relevance, whether we like it or not. Products using 1/10th the power consumption of Power8 will outperform them handily, and nothing in the PPC roadmap will be operational for such a long gap in time that it presents an unsurmountable gap.
The big difference is that Intel has continually reinvested in process technology improvements and fabrication exactitude, meaning they can lead the way with PPW and yield rates. Competitors find themselves having to throw more at the wall in order to maintain performance relevance, and that costs them yield rates and efficiency. That means that the products have a hard time meeting a viable price point, they have to go through tons of wafers to find 100% dies, and then their customers get stuck with products that are much hotter and more power consuming for equal tasks.
All of this is sort of irrelevant to the WiiU though. Only the slightest relevance is there between the Power8 and the WiiU CPU, tenous to the extreme. The WiiU CPU is extremely well suited for its tasks, and at such a low clock speed makes for remarkable efficiency while still offering target performance, all while having successful high yield fabrication due to the overall simplicity and size of the product.
ARM cores may arise in the server arena, but PPC is not long for the world. The death will be slow due to clients having massive investments already in place that are hard to steer out of, but it's inevitable.