But Link's Awakening and Minish Cap had none of these flaws. 

Within the first 10 minutes of the game, I knew I was in for a treat with the dialogue. It felt too much like a crappy fanfiction than an actual game. Watch the opening cinematic with this in mind, and maybe you'll see it. 

I was talking about the plot when I said generic plot. Five minutes in, Tetra is kidnapped, she screams for Link to help her, and you jump off. The music was bad. And everyone treated you like an idiot, rather than a veteran. Let me compare this sequel to Majora's Mask. 

In Majora's Mask, the game starts with a familiar hero, who knows he's a hero. He doesn't need any introductions to sword fighting, or any introductions at all. You just jump right in. And on that note, when you start platforming, you do it with style. Once again a display of this hero's experience. 

In Phantom Hourglass you get a kid who is fresh off stabbing Ganon in the face, who goes to an island where people treat him like a new kid, and that's what it seemed like. This was a new kid, he had no relation at all to the development he got in the Wind Waker. And Tetra too. 

The wording on this might be a bit off, but you get the intention.

"In 2003, Nintendo announced that a new Zelda game was underway for the GameCube,^[29] developed by the same team that created thecel-shaded The Wind Waker.^[30] A presentation by director Eiji Aonuma contained a reference to the working title The Wind Waker 2,^[31]and it was said to use a similar graphical style.^[32] Nintendo of America told Aonuma that North American sales of The Wind Waker were sluggish because the cartoon appearance created the impression that the game was designed for a young audience. Concerned that the sequel would have the same problem, Aonuma expressed to fellow designer Shigeru Miyamoto that he wanted to create a realistic Zeldagame that would appeal to the North American market. In turn, Miyamoto was concerned about merely changing the presentation instead of coming up with new gameplay ideas. He told Aonuma that he should start by doing what could not be done in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, particularly horseback combat.^[33]

In four months, Aonuma's team managed to present realistic-looking horseback riding,^[33] which Nintendo later revealed to the public with a trailer at E3 2004. The game was scheduled to be released in 2005 and was no longer a sequel to The Wind Waker.^[34] Miyamoto explained in interviews that the graphical style was chosen to satisfy demand, and that it better fit the theme of an older Link.^[35] "

As you can see, the game was developed with Ocarina of Time in mind, as it shares a lot of similarities. Artstyle could be different, but not as much as other games like TWW, SS or the new one. It's clearly influenced.

On a second note, I never said Hyrule in Ocarina of Time was good, what I said it was that the overworld of Twilight Princess failed to do what it should have to do. Both are just barren hubs.

What I liked about the TP overworld, was the Twilight parts, with creepier enemies. I would have not mind also, if they went with only twilight enemies. Of course, not just the ones presented, but also creating new ones.

And finally, about the difficult, I have seen some blind let's play enough to confirm that TP is easier than OoT. SS is harder than TP and I have already played before 4 3D Zeldas. In fact, MM is harder than any 3D Zelda.

+ Wind Waker
- Twilight Princess

How exactly would Zant get his power to overthrow Midna and why would he come to Hyrule if it weren't for Ganon's (a separate entities) motivations? Zant didn't come to want to conquer Hyrule for himself, he did it for Ganon.  Zant as a character needs a motive, and I'd rather it be Ganon directing him to do so than, "oh he just wants more power." Also Zant and Ganon's relationship was interesting. Zant being so jealous and resentful against Midna fueled Ganon and Ganon promised him power in return. For that reason I prefer them to be separate entities from one another. Zant then was loyal to Ganon until his betrayal. And I viewed Zant help with killing Ganondorf as a changing role in his character, that he realized how wrong he was to blindly follow and worhship Ganon as a god. It would've taken away from that changing and developing characterization to have him remain the big evil or change into Ganon (that is essentially what ALTTP did.) I prefer round, developing characters to flat, static ones, to be honest. Also I like how Ganon dies rather than being sealed away in TP. It has a sort of symmetry with the adult timeline where Ganon dies in Windwaker and A Link to the Past, where he also dies in the failed hero timeline. 

+ Skyward Sword

- Zelda II

I don't get how WW is getting so many points with so few dungeons and that stupid triforce hunt. the game is only good until that end part.

That would have made Zant a new reincarnation of Ganon rather than it's puppet. He would have been in the same level as Agahnim, Ganondorf, Vaati or Yuga. Even so, rather than Ganon, he could have used the Fused Shadows and became a more terrifying monster.

While these are pretty good arguments that I partly agree with, I still think Spirit Tracks is miles worse. I won't completely praise the dialogue on Phantom, but it delivers the decent, DS game story just fine. Delivers the tutorials just fine as well. Speaking of tutorials, they're a fundamental part of the beginning of Zelda games regardless of continuity. Majora's Mask is the link breaker of many traditions and people praised it for that. I do too.

Yes, because it was the first land-based game that took place in Hyrule since OoT and also OoT is the standard the 3D games is always held up to. Notice how OoT is only mentioned with regard to doing what couldn't be done in it. Your quote says nothing about trying to be a remaster or clone of OoT. Twilight Princess, from the start, was its own game - unlike say, ALBW.  

You said that they wanted to make a bigger (it certainly is much bigger) and more complex overworld. Whether or not it is more complex is arguable. I did like that in TP the overworld had a lot of puzzles that used items like the spinner or the dominion rod. In that way it was kind of more complex. Also the way each province ran into each-other was decently complex. And I always enjoy the Cave of Ordeals, which doesn't really have an OoT equivalent. 

When you say "blind let's play" are you certain these people never have played a Legend of Zelda game? I didn't find SS that much harder than TP, other than I guess the motion plus combat. Puzzles were actually simplified to a focus around the motion controls in my opinion. The last three 3D Zelda games (Windwaker, TP, and SS) have been a breeze to go through. 

After zelda 2 dies, phantom hourglass will be next. reason: Temple of the f#cking ocean king. also, the controls. I had no preoblem with using the stylus for sword fighting, itens and basically everything, but theu should have given the option for moving with the + pad.