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g911turbo on 02 January 2015
Lawlight said:
g911turbo said:

Some of the deals might now be "expired".  But you can find new ones all the time.  At one point in the last 30 days those were all available deals.  

 

Besides, you can buy keyboards and mice for 20 bucks of 200 bucks, depends on your preference kind of like custom camo controllers vs generic and everything inbetween.

 

My post is just a reference.

Allow me to be skeptic. Post fresh links.

I think you are confusing what's possible with what's available this second.  I'm not going to collect links over the next 7-14 days just to prove my point (again) and appease you.

Those links were all valid over the course of the last month.  In fact there were other deals in the past month (for example, intel processor vs. AMD) to suit your preference.  If you are looking to build a PC, just set alerts on slickdeals . net and buy your parts as they come up.  It can easily be done.

The more "thumbs up" the deal gets the better.  Sometime you get some marketing bs in there so be careful.



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sc94597 on 02 January 2015
generic-user-1 said:
sc94597 said:
Kerotan said:
Captain_Tom said:
Mr.Playstation said:

 Can you play all recent games released at 1080P/60fps with everything on high? If yes, how much money did you spend on your rig?


That's really a silly question.  Most games have a few "Overkill" settings there for those who have Uber rigs or for those who play the game a few years from now.  They really aren't neccessary to get 95% of the graphics quality most of the time.

 

I will just say this:  To play modern games in 1080p at 60 FPS with High-Ultra settings an $800 or $1000 rig would be fine. 


That price tag is the reason consoles still sell so well. A lot of people need to save up just to buy a 300-400 console.

But for half the price of his PC you can play games at high/ultra 30 fps 1080p. All you need is a $230 r9 280x and you can Max almost any game 1080p  and a solid 30fps. Since the general rule is to spend half the cost of your rig on your GPU that would be about a $550 PC if planned well. In comparison consoles play at medium settings and less than 1080p30fps most of the time. For console level hardware you only need to spend $450.


you can run the most games with 60 fps and a lot better graphic than console with a 280x. if you play with a consolish graphic no game should be a problem to run with 60 fps and 1080p.

Yeah, I was talking about maxing games on ultra though. Games like AC Unity, The Evil Within, Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs run at about 40 fps maxed on a r9 280x @ 1080p. While any game from last year like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 will run at 60fps. That is after optimization though. I considered that somebody just wants to install and play without messing with settings, they'll easily get a locked 30fps on any game, if not more. 



sc94597 on 02 January 2015
HollyGamer said:
sc94597 said:
 

Yet an r9 270 still slightly outperforms a PS4, anyway. So your point doesn't hold in this particular case. Usually you cant compare gflops when the other parts of the gpu hardware are quite different. The r9 270 and PS4 gpu are both based on the same chip though. And in all other areas the r9 270 is slightly better. The difference is that of running games at medium at 1600 *900 and running them at medium-high 1080p with some AA. If you overclock the r9 270, which literally only takes a button click, then you see even greater performance gains for the same price you paid.

It's different from one game to another tho, i have the problem with ACU, watch Dog with My Nvidia 880M GTX, i understand it can be slightly benefit on greater specs, but it seems most games run almost the same graphic because most developer (multyplatform games) build on the same engine that can be use for multyple configuration and specs.

Not for the r9 270 though. Your 880M GTX is much more of a different card with different advantages and disadvantages than an r9 270 is from a PS4. All are within the same ballpark performance, but the R9 270 is repackaged Radeon HD7870 with a higher clock speed, while the PS4's GPU is an underclocked HD 7870. 

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270-vs-Radeon-HD-7870

They are essentially the same gpu in everything but clock speed. The only benefit the PS4 has is that its memory is unified GDDR5, and that means it won't be constrained by VRAM in future games, but r9 270 should be fine with 2gb of Vram for the rest of the generation. 



g911turbo on 02 January 2015


you can run the most games with 60 fps and a lot better graphic than console with a 280x. if you play with a consolish graphic no game should be a problem to run with 60 fps and 1080p.

Yeah, I was talking about maxing games on ultra though. Games like AC Unity, The Evil Within, Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs run at about 40 fps maxed on a r9 280x @ 1080p. While any game from last year like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 will run at 60fps. That is after optimization though. I considered that somebody just wants to install and play without messing with settings, they'll easily get a locked 30fps on any game, if not more. 

The problem with the OP is that he is asking what it takes to run games on Ultra, 60FPS, and at 1080p, yet that's RARELY what consoles are asked to do.

Yes, PS4 is often hitting 1080P, but rarely at 60fps and what would be consider ULTRA.  Mid or Mid-High settings maybe.

 

And trust me, I USED to be a PC gamer years ago (10+), and currently only play on consoles.  So I'm not trying to bash consoles.  I'm just saying some of these comparisons are rediculous.  Convenience is key when it comes to consoles selling points (I remember having audio issues in the day when trying to play Halflife 2 for example).

 

The SCARY thing is that consoles are starting to become more and more like PCs in the sense of shit not working on day 1, but thats mostly due to unrealistic release schedules battling long lead/dev times.  Day 1 patches etc.  UGH..  but i digress.



sc94597 on 02 January 2015
g911turbo said:


you can run the most games with 60 fps and a lot better graphic than console with a 280x. if you play with a consolish graphic no game should be a problem to run with 60 fps and 1080p.

Yeah, I was talking about maxing games on ultra though. Games like AC Unity, The Evil Within, Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs run at about 40 fps maxed on a r9 280x @ 1080p. While any game from last year like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 will run at 60fps. That is after optimization though. I considered that somebody just wants to install and play without messing with settings, they'll easily get a locked 30fps on any game, if not more. 

The problem with the OP is that he is asking what it takes to run games on Ultra, 60FPS, and at 1080p, yet that's RARELY what consoles are asked to do.

Yes, PS4 is often hitting 1080P, but rarely at 60fps and what would be consider ULTRA.  Mid or Mid-High settings maybe.

 

And trust me, I USED to be a PC gamer years ago (10+), and currently only play on consoles.  So I'm not trying to bash consoles.  I'm just saying some of these comparisons are rediculous.  Convenience is key when it comes to consoles selling points (I remember having audio issues in the day when trying to play Halflife 2 for example).

 

The SCARY thing is that consoles are starting to become more and more like PCs in the sense of shit not working on day 1, but thats mostly due to unrealistic release schedules battling long lead/dev times.  Day 1 patches etc.  UGH..  but i digress.

Yeah I agree with all of your points. Conveniene is the one argument that consoles have over PC in my opinion. I don't have any next-gen home consoles (yet, plan to get a Wii U next year and a PS4 at end of gen when it's $200.) I game mostly on my PC and 3DS. 



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g911turbo on 02 January 2015
sc94597 said:
g911turbo said:


you can run the most games with 60 fps and a lot better graphic than console with a 280x. if you play with a consolish graphic no game should be a problem to run with 60 fps and 1080p.

Yeah, I was talking about maxing games on ultra though. Games like AC Unity, The Evil Within, Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs run at about 40 fps maxed on a r9 280x @ 1080p. While any game from last year like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 will run at 60fps. That is after optimization though. I considered that somebody just wants to install and play without messing with settings, they'll easily get a locked 30fps on any game, if not more. 

The problem with the OP is that he is asking what it takes to run games on Ultra, 60FPS, and at 1080p, yet that's RARELY what consoles are asked to do.

Yes, PS4 is often hitting 1080P, but rarely at 60fps and what would be consider ULTRA.  Mid or Mid-High settings maybe.

 

And trust me, I USED to be a PC gamer years ago (10+), and currently only play on consoles.  So I'm not trying to bash consoles.  I'm just saying some of these comparisons are rediculous.  Convenience is key when it comes to consoles selling points (I remember having audio issues in the day when trying to play Halflife 2 for example).

 

The SCARY thing is that consoles are starting to become more and more like PCs in the sense of shit not working on day 1, but thats mostly due to unrealistic release schedules battling long lead/dev times.  Day 1 patches etc.  UGH..  but i digress.

Yeah I agree with all of your points. Conveniene is the one argument that consoles have over PC in my opinion. I don't have any next-gen home consoles (yet, plan to get a Wii U next year and a PS4 at end of gen when it's $200.) I game mostly on my PC and 3DS. 

Wii U is awesome and probably provides the most of what you cannot get on PC.  I have that and Xbox One (wanted to play DR3 and TF).  Plan to get PS4 eventually too once some more games come out.

 

I guess the universal truth is that it always comes down to games.  Everything else is secondary.   lol



generic-user-1 on 02 January 2015
sc94597 said:
generic-user-1 said:
sc94597 said:
Kerotan said:
Captain_Tom said:
Mr.Playstation said:

 Can you play all recent games released at 1080P/60fps with everything on high? If yes, how much money did you spend on your rig?


That's really a silly question.  Most games have a few "Overkill" settings there for those who have Uber rigs or for those who play the game a few years from now.  They really aren't neccessary to get 95% of the graphics quality most of the time.

 

I will just say this:  To play modern games in 1080p at 60 FPS with High-Ultra settings an $800 or $1000 rig would be fine. 


That price tag is the reason consoles still sell so well. A lot of people need to save up just to buy a 300-400 console.

But for half the price of his PC you can play games at high/ultra 30 fps 1080p. All you need is a $230 r9 280x and you can Max almost any game 1080p  and a solid 30fps. Since the general rule is to spend half the cost of your rig on your GPU that would be about a $550 PC if planned well. In comparison consoles play at medium settings and less than 1080p30fps most of the time. For console level hardware you only need to spend $450.


you can run the most games with 60 fps and a lot better graphic than console with a 280x. if you play with a consolish graphic no game should be a problem to run with 60 fps and 1080p.

Yeah, I was talking about maxing games on ultra though. Games like AC Unity, The Evil Within, Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs run at about 40 fps maxed on a r9 280x @ 1080p. While any game from last year like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 will run at 60fps. That is after optimization though. I considered that somebody just wants to install and play without messing with settings, they'll easily get a locked 30fps on any game, if not more. 



im not sure if any pc can run watchdogs and acu in 60 fps. the games are just to broken. and crisis 3 dont run in 60 fps on ultra, just 40 fps in benchmarks.

sc94597 on 02 January 2015
g911turbo said:

Wii U is awesome and probably provides the most of what you cannot get on PC.  I have that and Xbox One (wanted to play DR3 and TF).  Plan to get PS4 eventually too once some more games come out.

 

I guess the universal truth is that it always comes down to games.  Everything else is secondary.   lol

Well I'm a big fan of Nintendo games, so their consoles are always inevitable for me. Once Xenoblade Chronicles X or LoZ U release (whichever is first) I'll have to get a Wii U and all the other Nintendo games I've been able to hold off on. There are a few PS4/console exclusives I want like Bloodborne and FFXV (if it doesn't come to PC) but I can wait for them. Plenty of other games to play before those, and if worse comes to worst I can borrow/rent a console to play those few games. 



sc94597 on 02 January 2015
generic-user-1 said:
sc94597 said:
generic-user-1 said:
sc94597 said:
Kerotan said:
Captain_Tom said:
Mr.Playstation said:

 Can you play all recent games released at 1080P/60fps with everything on high? If yes, how much money did you spend on your rig?


That's really a silly question.  Most games have a few "Overkill" settings there for those who have Uber rigs or for those who play the game a few years from now.  They really aren't neccessary to get 95% of the graphics quality most of the time.

 

I will just say this:  To play modern games in 1080p at 60 FPS with High-Ultra settings an $800 or $1000 rig would be fine. 


That price tag is the reason consoles still sell so well. A lot of people need to save up just to buy a 300-400 console.

But for half the price of his PC you can play games at high/ultra 30 fps 1080p. All you need is a $230 r9 280x and you can Max almost any game 1080p  and a solid 30fps. Since the general rule is to spend half the cost of your rig on your GPU that would be about a $550 PC if planned well. In comparison consoles play at medium settings and less than 1080p30fps most of the time. For console level hardware you only need to spend $450.


you can run the most games with 60 fps and a lot better graphic than console with a 280x. if you play with a consolish graphic no game should be a problem to run with 60 fps and 1080p.

Yeah, I was talking about maxing games on ultra though. Games like AC Unity, The Evil Within, Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs run at about 40 fps maxed on a r9 280x @ 1080p. While any game from last year like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 will run at 60fps. That is after optimization though. I considered that somebody just wants to install and play without messing with settings, they'll easily get a locked 30fps on any game, if not more. 


im not sure if any pc can run watchdogs and acu in 60 fps. the games are just to broken. and crisis 3 dont run in 60 fps on ultra, just 40 fps in benchmarks.

Well not a locked 60 fps, but Crysis 3 can stay up there a lot of the time. With v-sync this is no problem. 

Here's an r9 280x 1080p vs. 1440p with very high settings on most things. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEOJEEbN3LU

 



generic-user-1 on 02 January 2015
sc94597 said:
generic-user-1 said:
sc94597 said:
generic-user-1 said:
sc94597 said:
Kerotan said:
Captain_Tom said:
Mr.Playstation said:

 Can you play all recent games released at 1080P/60fps with everything on high? If yes, how much money did you spend on your rig?


That's really a silly question.  Most games have a few "Overkill" settings there for those who have Uber rigs or for those who play the game a few years from now.  They really aren't neccessary to get 95% of the graphics quality most of the time.

 

I will just say this:  To play modern games in 1080p at 60 FPS with High-Ultra settings an $800 or $1000 rig would be fine. 


That price tag is the reason consoles still sell so well. A lot of people need to save up just to buy a 300-400 console.

But for half the price of his PC you can play games at high/ultra 30 fps 1080p. All you need is a $230 r9 280x and you can Max almost any game 1080p  and a solid 30fps. Since the general rule is to spend half the cost of your rig on your GPU that would be about a $550 PC if planned well. In comparison consoles play at medium settings and less than 1080p30fps most of the time. For console level hardware you only need to spend $450.


you can run the most games with 60 fps and a lot better graphic than console with a 280x. if you play with a consolish graphic no game should be a problem to run with 60 fps and 1080p.

Yeah, I was talking about maxing games on ultra though. Games like AC Unity, The Evil Within, Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs run at about 40 fps maxed on a r9 280x @ 1080p. While any game from last year like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 will run at 60fps. That is after optimization though. I considered that somebody just wants to install and play without messing with settings, they'll easily get a locked 30fps on any game, if not more. 


im not sure if any pc can run watchdogs and acu in 60 fps. the games are just to broken. and crisis 3 dont run in 60 fps on ultra, just 40 fps in benchmarks.

Well not a locked 60 fps, but Crysis 3 can stay up there a lot of the time. With v-sync this is no problem. 

Here's an r9 280x 1080p vs. 1440p with very high settings on most things. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEOJEEbN3LU

 



you said it, most things on, not all.^^ but who cares? even high looks better than ps4 in most games and runs butter smoth on a r280x or 270x