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Lawlight said:
On a console budget and they go for $550? A PS4 is $400 at most. Let's not even mention the time taken to build that PC.


Yeah a couple hours probably... Maybe add a few more to that if you lack experience.



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SvennoJ said:
Game_God said:
SvennoJ said:
PenguinZ said:

A good gaming PC has a higher cost initially, but if you look at the long term, then there's certainly a lower cost associated with a gaming PC compared to a console.

Depends if you stick to Steam sales. New games cost about the same (at least where I live). A PC usually needs an upgrade or two during a console's life span, which offsets the cost of live or ps+. Yet those give you a lot of games as well.
You can trade in or sell console games. Can't with PC games.

Then you must live in the only country where PC games cost as much as their console counterparts!

The same game on PC is usually $20 cheaper than on console, furthermore on PC you have the modding community that expands the gaming experience of said games & you don't have to pay to play on-line!!!

At the end of 6 years, what you paid extra for games & internet is about $800, with that money I assure you that you can build a very decent gaming rig!

New games actually cost more. Far Cry 4 on steam here CAD 69.99. Physical in store CAD 67.99

Plus my isp charges me $2 per GB over 80GB a month, makes downloading games not attractive at all. I would have to pay extra for internet for PC gaming. This month I bought about 140GB of physical games, since I'm already down to 15GB left, that would be an extra $250 to download them. (It would be cheaper to upgrade my internet and pay another $180 a year before tax and hope 270GB a month will remain enough, or go for unlimited for $300 extra a year)

So if I switch to PC gaming I would end up paying an extra $1080 or $1800 for internet. That buys a lot of games.
$300 for ps+ for 6 years isn't that bad in comparison, and it's about as much as I can download anyway for digital games.

Your internet life sucks bro, I feel bad for you...

Here in Europe I pay 40€ for illimited internet, fiber-optic 100Mbit/s of download, 25Mbits/s upload!

Here I found Far Cry 4 for PC @ 29,99€   http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-far-cry-4-cd-key-compare-prices/

while the PS4 version costs 55,83€   http://jeux-video.fnac.com/a7431512/Far-Cry-4-PS4-Jeu-PlayStation-4

So my point remains, playing on-line on PC is free, not on PS4 & X1, & games are cheaper on PC, after 6 years of gaming, buying only 4 games a year you keep 800€ in your pocket by choosing PC over console, belive me a 800€ rig blows out of the water any console performance wise!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n29CicBxZuw

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PS4 has a more powerful GPU than a 7850, the CPU and GPU are also on the same die, making the technology more efficient and latency between those parts much better.
You can pick up a PS4 for £299, with a game right now, PS Plus also gives you hundreds of pounds worth of games and just started giving out AAA retail quality games, there's no comparison for the value and price to performance ratio a console offers.

Of course you can spend more money and get a vastly superior spec than PS4, but when it comes to value the platform and a PSPlus membership far outstrips the value of a PC and the cost of trying to buy the same amount of games through say a service like steam.
Even if you could buy each of the games on PSPlus for say £3 each, 3 games, a month is £9X12=£108 and you're never going to be able to buy those same 36 games all for £1 each on PC, not even in a few years after they came out.
Injustice is £7.49 right now and Secret Ponchos is £10.99 on Steam, Infamous First Light is cheapest on PS Store at £10.99.
With a couple of months worth of content it equals the cost of a year's PS+.
Basically the games included in the instant game collection end up paying for a full year's membership when you take into consideration the price those games would cost you to buy on their own.

Consoles continue to have the value proposition locked up, facts don't agree with anything else!



chapset said:
why not both, I don,t see what is stopping people from playing on both consoles and pc


Exactly, that's what I do! I have PC & WiiU this gen, last gen was PS3, Wii & PC, before that, PC, PS2, Dreamcast & GameCube & before that PS1, N64, Saturn & PC! Not counting the handhelds...



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Lawlight said:
On a console budget and they go for $550? A PS4 is $400 at most. Let's not even mention the time taken to build that PC.

Remember, the Xbone released for $500 + tax ~ 550. This was written when the consoles first released. Today you can get a $450 PC (after OS + Keyboard & Mouse) on par with the PS4. 

http://www.reddit.com/r/PCMasterRace/wiki/builds



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sc94597 said:
Lawlight said:
On a console budget and they go for $550? A PS4 is $400 at most. Let's not even mention the time taken to build that PC.

Remember, the Xbone released for $500 + tax ~ 550. This was written when the consoles first released. Today you can get a $450 PC (after OS + Keyboard & Mouse) on par with the PS4. 

http://www.reddit.com/r/PCMasterRace/wiki/builds


Those don't include everything.



Game_God said:
 

Your internet life sucks bro, I feel bad for you...

Here in Europe I pay 40€ for illimited internet, fiber-optic 100Mbit/s of download, 25Mbits/s upload!

Here I found Far Cry 4 for PC @ 29,99€   http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-far-cry-4-cd-key-compare-prices/

while the PS4 version costs 55,83€   http://jeux-video.fnac.com/a7431512/Far-Cry-4-PS4-Jeu-PlayStation-4

So my point remains, playing on-line on PC is free, not on PS4 & X1, & games are cheaper on PC, after 6 years of gaming, buying only 4 games a year you keep 800€ in your pocket by choosing PC over console, belive me a 800€ rig blows out of the water any console performance wise!

I can find Far Cry 4 for ps4 cheaper too already, 2nd hand though. Although what I usually do with games I won't get back to, is trade it in for a bit over half price. $30 is fine with me for playing it day 1. This year I spend $1250 on 48 games, average of $26 a game. I could have gotten that average down a lot by buying more in Steam sales and humble bundles. I wouldn't have time to play them nor bandwidth to download them though. I'm already way behind on my game catalog, next to the ps+ 'freebies'

Anyway I feel very noobish atm. I was playing Spintires the past few days on my laptop in 900p, medium quality, no AA, still ran avg 25fps. I thought the game was badly unoptimized, then I started Elite dangerous and it said graphics adaptor: Intel HD 4600... So went into NVidia control panel and set it to prefer the GT 740M instead of auto select. Now Spintires runs in 1080p, max settings, butter smooth.
However Elite dangerous is still only giving the option for Intel HD graphics 4600 and deafults to medium low quality settings. At least it acknowledges my DS4 (gonna be a while setting that up, so many options) which Spintires does not. PC gaming, always an adventure :)



Edit: found a workaround that seems to help my case. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=76670&page=4
Change Adaptor to 1 in AppDataLocalFrontier_DevelopmentsProductsFORC-FDEV-D-1001003AppConfig.xml
The game still stutters really bad now and then, but is smooth in between. It seems to have already forgotten the few controls I set up for testing. Right stick up goes left now, hold it to the left to accelerate, ugh. I'm gonna do some relaxing console gaming now, actually playing a game. I'll configure all the controls another time.

Also for anyone else playing Spintires, don't forget to make backups of your saves in AppDataRoamingSpinTiresUserSaves as otherwise you will lose all progress when the game crashes.



Better include the $50 a year for subscription!

You guys need to understand these console games are rarely this cheap and it is only because of the holidays. PC also has way more variety and genres of games. Most console players don't even know half of the great games on PC.



Lawlight said:
On a console budget and they go for $550? A PS4 is $400 at most. Let's not even mention the time taken to build that PC.


It takes half a day to build a PC.

 

 

I own both a PS4 and a PC, and I do the vast majority of my gaming on Steam for a myriad of reasons. Here are some points I've noticed after playing on both:

PC:

  • Games run smoother and look nicer.
  • Customizable settings. I can change graphical settings, sounds settings, control settings, etc. You also have power over how your PC runs (interchangeable parts) and accessibility to 3rd party programs like Skype.
  • I can play with KB/M, Xbox One Controller, PS4 Controller, or any controller for that matter.
  • Free Online. I don't have to pay to play online.
  • Steam Services (Steam Family Share, Steam Cloud, Steam Workshop, Steam Home-Streaming)
  • Dirt cheap games (New Vegas for $2.49? Tomb Raider for $3.99? Dishonored for $4.99?) and Humble Bundles
  • Tons of games available and by far the most exclusives.
  • Literally every genre available and some PC-specific genres (RTS, Grand Strategy, 4X, MMO, Simulation)..and also some odd ones as well (Bullethells, Visual Novels, Space Exploration)
  • Emulators (Dolphin for Wii/GC, ePSXe for PS1/PS2, PPSSPP for PSP, DS/GBA, etc.)
  • Modding. There are some amazing mods out there (Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings II for example, or those ridiculous mods for Skyrim)
  • Complete backwards compatibility. Bought some of those digital games on PS3? Too bad you can't play them on PS4!
  • Longevity. Games released years ago still receive support and updates (Team Fortress 2), and games like Age of Empires II (released in 1999 and re-released on Steam) is still getting 6000-10000 concurrent users playing online. Something *cough* Killzone Shadowfall *cough* can't even touch.
  • ....and above all else, PCs do a lot more than just gaming.
I bought a PS4 for the exclusives (Uncharted, Bloodborne, Persona 5), but there's no doubt in my mind that PC gaming is the better experience. 
 
In the end, pick your poison. If you have the option to play on both, then do, because you're truly missing out on some unique experiences on PC found absolutely nowhere else. Power goes beyond just specs.


Lawlight said:
sc94597 said:
Lawlight said:
On a console budget and they go for $550? A PS4 is $400 at most. Let's not even mention the time taken to build that PC.

Remember, the Xbone released for $500 + tax ~ 550. This was written when the consoles first released. Today you can get a $450 PC (after OS + Keyboard & Mouse) on par with the PS4. 

http://www.reddit.com/r/PCMasterRace/wiki/builds


Those don't include everything.

Yes it does. It is $376 without OS and Mouse/Keyboard. $40 for an OS and $30 for Mouse+ Keyboard => $450.