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Forums - Politics Discussion - 5 Legal Rights Women Have That Men Don’t (primarily USA focused)

SamuelRSmith said:
pepharytheworm said:

Who do you think made these laws? Don't men make up 80% of US elected officials?

In the United States, women are almost 51% of the population (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html), and they get to vote without agreeing to be put in the draft.

In fact, historically, women have a voter turnout roughly 4 points higher than men. http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_facts/voters/documents/genderdiff.pdf

If women wanted to elect more women into office, they certainly have the numbers to do it. Turns out they don't need to, as male politicians have historically proven to be very beneficial to women already.

Public choice theory, read up on it.

As i Just proved woman will  be added to the draft. That barrier has been removed.



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Nicklesbe said:

Yes I did. It has everything to do with selective service. Did you even read it? Its from the selective service gov. website...."to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service" means woman will be added to the draft if the draft is ever removed from standby.

No, it doesn't. It means exactly what it says: that females will no longer be excluded from certain positions unless the Secretary of Defense decides otherwise. That is, positions they want to hold. It doesn't mean that they're elligible for the draft. Panetta himself said so:

"With regards to Selective Service, you know, that’s not our operation," Panetta said. "I don’t know who the hell controls Selective Service, if you want to know the truth. But, you know, whoever does, they’re going to have to exercise some judgment based on what we just did."

And from the Selective Service website:

Women Aren't Required to Register

Here's why:

THE LAW
Selective Service law as it is written now refers specifically to "male persons" in stating who must register and who would be drafted. For women to be required to register with Selective Service, Congress would have to amend the law.

THE SUPREME COURT
The constitutionality of excluding women was tested in the courts. A Supreme Court decision in 1981, http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0453_0057_ZS.html"> Rostker v. Goldberg, held that registering only men did not violate the due process clause of the Constitution.

Panetta reckoning that, maybe, whoever the hell runs Selective Service will have to exercise some judgment based on what he just did has nothing to do with the law as it exists.

 



Jumpin said:
I feel really sorry for men who have been genitally mutilated. They will not be able to enjoy sex correctly, and will suffer from impotence after a time due to the lack of feeling. I can understand why some porn stars do it because they need to last extremely long periods of time, and the lack of sexual pleasure will help that.

Also they have the benefit of their dick not looking like a depressed aardvark.



badgenome said:
Nicklesbe said:

Yes I did. It has everything to do with selective service. Did you even read it? Its from the selective service gov. website...."to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service" means woman will be added to the draft if the draft is ever removed from standby.

No, it doesn't. It means exactly what it says: that females will no longer be excluded from certain positions unless the Secretary of Defense decides otherwise. That is, positions they want to hold. It doesn't mean that they're elligible for the draft. Panetta himself said so:

"With regards to Selective Service, you know, that’s not our operation," Panetta said. "I don’t know who the hell controls Selective Service, if you want to know the truth. But, you know, whoever does, they’re going to have to exercise some judgment based on what we just did."

And from the Selective Service website:

Women Aren't Required to Register

Here's why:

THE LAW
Selective Service law as it is written now refers specifically to "male persons" in stating who must register and who would be drafted. For women to be required to register with Selective Service, Congress would have to amend the law.

THE SUPREME COURT
The constitutionality of excluding women was tested in the courts. A Supreme Court decision in 1981, http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0453_0057_ZS.html"> Rostker v. Goldberg, held that registering only men did not violate the due process clause of the Constitution.

Panetta reckoning that, maybe, whoever the hell runs Selective Service will have to exercise some judgment based on what he just did has nothing to do with the law as it exists.

 

You really don't know how to read do you? All of that is pre-january 2013.... After january 2013 that is no longer the case. The law and the entire selective serrvice is in the process of updating and removing gender based barriers to service, which includes adding woman to the draft, as stated on january 24 2013. try reading again.. "to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service" by definition woman not being added to the draft is a gender based barrier to service.



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Nicklesbe said:

You really don't know how to read do you? All of that is pre-january 2013.... After january 2013 that is no longer the case. The law and the entire selective serrvice is in the process of updating and removing gender based barriers to service, which includes adding woman to the draft, as stated on january 24 2013. try reading again.. "to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service" by definition woman not being added to the draft is a gender based barrier to service.

I'm pretty sure January 28, 2013, came after January 24, 2013.



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badgenome said:
Nicklesbe said:

You really don't know how to read do you? All of that is pre-january 2013.... After january 2013 that is no longer the case. The law and the entire selective serrvice is in the process of updating and removing gender based barriers to service, which includes adding woman to the draft, as stated on january 24 2013. try reading again.. "to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service" by definition woman not being added to the draft is a gender based barrier to service.

I'm pretty sure January 28, 2013, came after January 24, 2013.

And Im pretty sure 2016 when the entire process is scheduled to be complete is after january 28 2013. Face it dude you are wrong on this. The laws are in the process of being changed, they will be added to the draft.



http://www.youtube.com/v/AoOOpLpcF28 http://www.youtube.com/v/CphFZGH5030

All Hail the Jester King. The King is back, and I am still a dirty girl prof ;)

Nicklesbe said:

You really don't know how to read do you? All of that is pre-january 2013.... After january 2013 that is no longer the case. The law and the entire selective serrvice is in the process of updating and removing gender based barriers to service, which includes adding woman to the draft, as stated on january 24 2013. try reading again.. "to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service" by definition woman not being added to the draft is a gender based barrier to service.


"The National Coalition for Men has filed a lawsuit that challenges the legality of requiring only males to register for the military draft.[50][51] The lawsuit was filed against the U.S. Selective Service System in the United States District Court for the Central District of California on April 4, 2013, Case Number 2:13-cv-02391-DSF-MAN.[52] The case was dismissed on July 29, 2013,[53] and the NCFM filed for appeal on June 25, 2014 in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.[54]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System#Exemption_of_women



SamuelRSmith said:
Nicklesbe said:

You really don't know how to read do you? All of that is pre-january 2013.... After january 2013 that is no longer the case. The law and the entire selective serrvice is in the process of updating and removing gender based barriers to service, which includes adding woman to the draft, as stated on january 24 2013. try reading again.. "to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service" by definition woman not being added to the draft is a gender based barrier to service.


"The National Coalition for Men has filed a lawsuit that challenges the legality of requiring only males to register for the military draft.[50][51] The lawsuit was filed against the U.S. Selective Service System in the United States District Court for the Central District of California on April 4, 2013, Case Number 2:13-cv-02391-DSF-MAN.[52] The case was dismissed on July 29, 2013,[53] and the NCFM filed for appeal on June 25, 2014 in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.[54]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System#Exemption_of_women


Because wikipedia is a valid source..Also it doesn't change the facts. The laws are in the process of being changed, as already proven.



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In Ireland only women can collect childrens allowance. A payment made to families no matter how wealthy of more than 100 euros per child per month. 

Further, slow burn is a legal protection only for women and has successfully been used as a defense to murder ( usually of a husband). In one case, the wife hammered her husbands head in ( literally with a hammer about 50 swipes), and was downgraded to man slaughter as they stated that he was verbally abusive and she just exploded this once. But apparently its a medical thing and only happens to women. If a man had carried out this attack on his wife, however.... Let's just say a man has never been successful with the slow burn defense and if he is, it won't be as often as for women. It's a gender specific defense.



Nicklesbe said:

And Im pretty sure 2016 when the entire process is scheduled to be complete is after january 28 2013. Face it dude you are wrong on this. The laws are in the process of being changed, they will be added to the draft.

No, the DOD's own internal processes are being changed. Laws aren't changed on the basis of some shit the Secretary of Defense said, and it is the law that exempts women from the draft.