Yeah, that's a load of crap what they did to Hatred. I'd love to see them put up a Kickstarter or something and get the game released on PS4 and XBone, personally.

Yeah, that's a load of crap what they did to Hatred. I'd love to see them put up a Kickstarter or something and get the game released on PS4 and XBone, personally.

I'm not sure what their past actions on this subject is, but I wonder if they felt the game deserved an "AO" rating based on what we know about the game. Console makers refuse to have AO games on their consoles and I think Valve might just be following the standard.
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| impertinence said: Laughable. Valve has the right to refuse whatever they want for whatever reason and that in no way makes them hypocrites. They remove content that they judge will bring too much negative backlash to their platform and allow content they judge will be just fine. If they as the platform owner feels that a game is morally disgusting, they still have every right to tell the developer "no thanks". Since when did it become Valves responsibility to open up their platform to anything people want to put on it? |
How does praying one thing and doing the opposite not make you a hypocrite?
They have the right to judge how they want so that we can say that their judging is weird and has a double standard. The thing is apparently that they have an exact measure of what is too much backlash and it would be interesting to see how they define it. Because I've seen a lot of backlash against other shit games that Valve continues to support with their platform.
And as Jim wonderfully said, if their argument is that this game doesn't belong on Steam because they don't like it, it means in return they do like all the other broken shit that is on steam and that they're happy to enable scumbags that put broken games on the platform to scam people.
The issue is not with what they did but what they didn't do.
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Yeah, I have no idea why they decided to go after it when there are plenty of other garbage games in the store. OK, so the content is graphic, so what? Are we gonna start banning Grand Theft Auto too? I love Steam, but this isn't right.
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| vivster said: How does praying one thing and doing the opposite not make you a hypocrite? And as Jim wonderfully said, if their argument is that this game doesn't belong on Steam because they don't like it, it means in return they do like all the other broken shit that is on steam and that they're happy to enable scumbags that put broken games on the platform to scam people. The issue is not with what they did but what they didn't do. |
Nonsense. If Jim, whomever that might be, has said that since Steam has refused one game because they don't like it that somehow means they like everything they do allow then he doesn't understand how to make a reasonable argument and he should not put his opinions out in the public space unless he wants people to make fun of his mental faculties.
And Valve is not saying one thing and doing another. All they are saying is that they find one particular game too offensive for their platform, and so won't allow it. That doesn't mean that they are obligated to ban everything else that random people like yourself and the rest of the internut peanut gallery think should be measurred to the same standard. The only thing that matters is that Valve, the platform owner, has decided that there is a difference between this game and other games in their eyes and that they don't want to touch this game.
They have a right to do so, but retaliation is also permitted. I am excited to see the consequence of this decision
It's just a sound business decision. No need to assosiate yourself with a product that could attract negative attention.
It is ridiculous that Steam pulled this. If they are going to turn down games that their users request in mass, don't have voting for a game to come to Steam in the first place. Just put up what you want.
I also don't get peoples overreaction to Hatred. There have been other games like Hatred before, but just because it has better graphics than those previous games, it's "evil." I mean, all this game really is is a remake of the first Postal. (Edit: Guess posting the vid didn't work, so here's a link.)
And also, watch just about any GTA5 playthrough and around half the time is spent "murdering" innocent people when the player is just screwing around. Hell, the main enemy you kill in the game are officers of the law just doing their job. And that's not even mentioning the innocent civilians you harm/kill in the main storyline. To me it just seems like people like to fake like they are better than others because they find that shooting/stabbing polygon characters is unacceptable and upsets them in one game, but are completely fine shooting/stabbing similar polygon characters in other games. Usually coming up with poor reasonings as to why its okay in the games they enjoy.