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LudicrousSpeed said:
JustBeingReal said:

You can't count them as console exclusives, because they're available on another console platform besides XB1.

You haven't addressed Crackdown either, it's not confirmed or even hinted at for 2015.

Strangely I clicked the Playstation lineup thread that is linked atop this thread and I didn't see you in that thread bitching about the numerous games that are ports of PS3 games or are also on PS3. In fact you made a lengthy gushing post about the greatness of that lineup. What up with that?

Damn you just exposed that guy, rofl



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TheSting said:
JustBeingReal said:

How come you haven't changed your list Fusioncode?

The only exclusives announced for Xbox One for 2015 are Quantum Break, Halo 5 and Fable Legends, the rest are all available on 360, besides Crackdown which isn't even hinted at for 2015, let alone confirmed.

God there really isn't much for the XB1 in 2015, what the hell have Microsoft been up to? They claim they have all of these exclusives and really they have 3 games exclusive for XB1 and only one of those (Fable) is likely to come out before the second half of 2015.

They're thinking that 360 owners would rather buy the likes of Ori and Scream Ride on XB1 than just buy those games on their 360s?
They put all the effort in trying to get the sales up to a decent level at the end of 2014 and have nothing in the way of reasons to keep that sales momentum up.

Unless Quantum Break is somehow going to release in Q2/3 it really is a wasteland for exclusives on XB1. Multiplats most would rather buy on PS4 and PS4 also has multiple major releases early next year, tonnes of other games you can't get on XB1 and loads more exclusives coming later, along with the best looking game of the generation so far, even while that games still in Pre-Alpha.

Wii U also destroys the XB1 for exclusives next year.

Unless MS are having an event early next year, to release a couple of surprise 1st party games Microsoft will loose a huge amount of ground and fall back into 3rd place for sales. Once the likes of Zelda and Starfox drop Nintendo will likely move more units later next year than XB1 will as well.

I don't see QB being a system seller, the only real people that interested in it are people that already have the XB1.
Microsoft needs to try harder!


LOL Microsoft won't go back to 3rd place you think Zelda and Star Fox will make it go back to second place? Are you forgetting about third party support? Halo 5? Gears of War? Xbox One will always be on top of WiiU.

 

For one thing Gears is far off,  early 2016 at the earliest, we're talking about 2015 games here. Halo 5 is one game and the MCC has already canabalized some of those numbers, most of the XB1's early adopters are Halo fans, so they've already bought the system thinking it was coming out when MCC came out or bought it for MCC, a lot of Halo fans didn't like Halo 4, so the amount of people that will buy an XB1 for Halo 5 is probably smaller than past Halo games.

Sony has 3rd party dominance this generation, with all of it's exclusives that will actually make PS4 even more likely to be the place where people buy their 3rd party games.

3rd party effect on hardware sales for XB1 will be even less than it has been this year because of all of the additional exclusives people have to buy a PS4 over that system, besides better performance in those 3rd party games and DLC coming 1st to PS4.

 

Many have been waiting for Zelda, people like myself, the Starfox crowd haven't bought into the system yet, there aren't just those games either, new IPs in Splatoon (could very well appeal to gamers that like games like Plants vs Zombies for some chaotic, cartoon violence), Xeno Blade will appeal to past Xeno fans, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, there's a fairly long list. Another factor is also price, which is far more likely to drop substantially to support those releases.

There's also the factor of the online being free, way more past exclusives launching in 2014, I mean the library is pretty huge.

As a secondary platform to complament PS4 Wii U is actually far more interesting to gamers that play a more descerning style of game than the line-up XB1 has, the full library that Wii U ends up having in 2015 is actually huge.

 

The only thing that may interest some of the PS4 audience on XB1 next year is maybe Quantum Break, but Remedy titles aren't known for pushing huge numbers and it's fairly likely that Quantum Break would eventually release on PC anyway, just like Alan Wake did.

 

The vast majority of people that haven't got an 8th gen console yet will be looking at where most of the exclusives they're interested in are or where the best versions of those games are and that's on PS4 and Wii U in 2015. Most people don't buy a considered purchase, that will set them back a few hundred pounds or dollars (just for the hardware) without considering the full line-up of games that are unique to each system, PS4 and Wii U have a lot more than XB1 judging by what's been announced for 2015 already and what's already out this year.

You think the kind of gamer that likes Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, Tearaway, Fat Princess Adventures, along with Infamous, The Order, Uncharted, Bloodborne is going to go for Halo 5, when they could be playing Yoshi, Mario Kart, Smash, Zelda Starfox, Bayonetta? The only kinds of games that may appeal are Quantum Break and Fable, the 360 owner can already play the likes of Ori and the Blind Forest.

 

As far as software libraries go Wii U is the perfect complament to a PS4, the fact that the gamer buying that system doesn't have to pay for online, there's a lot more exclusives on it and the system is much cheaper than XB1, it all really adds up to Wii U getting much bigger sales in 2015 based on all of these things.

WiiU will be the perfect compliment to my Xbox One. Im not even going to touch your lol worthy opinions about Xbox. 

Wii U can be your compliment to you and XBox but for majority PS4 and Wii U/PC is the compliement. Xbox exclusives are not diverse enought to cater many people and its keep looking to target same audience as before but with less number of exclusives and inferior 3rd party games its not looking hot and this why Xbox one has huge price cuts and bundles to survive where PS4 still at 400$ with or without bundles.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

Likely: Halo 5
On PS4 later: Rise of the Tomb Raider
Iffy: Quantum Break
Nopenopenope: The rest

I have an Xbone, but I can't really recommend it eadily like I can with the PS4 and to a lesser extent the Wii U.



Ronster316 said:
Theres clearly somebody in here who would much rather ignore the fact that the X1 has been kicking some major arse in terms of console exclusive this year........ so the X1's 2015 isn't as big as "that other company" doesn't change the fact that when you throw in Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Forza Horizon 2 an ever expanding roster of characters for Killer Instinct Season 2, Titanfall, plus great games from last year like Forza 5, Dead Rising 3 & Ryse (yes Ryse, its pretty good IMO) it all adds up to huge number of games that people who buy a X1 down the road will be able to enjoy (and from my experiences with most of those games, THEY WILL)


LMFAO I'm not ignoring a thing, I'm dealing with all of the points at hand.

To people that haven't yet decided to buy a current gen system the games already on XB1 obviously haven't been enough to make them want to buy one, it'll be the future line-up of releases, in combination with any past games they may have had some interest in that will be the deciding factors on which platform they decide to buy.

 

You'll notice that I was talking about people that are yet to buy an XB1, of course you have your reasons already for buying an XB1, you've been sold by the line-up and any other things you liked about the system or network or whatever.

The fact is that from a pure exclusives point of view XB1 doesn't have the variety of PS4, it doesn't have the 3rd preference like PS4 does and from a purely exclusives based machine Wii U also has more and more too come.

 

Looking at things objectively, thats all I'm doing, I'm sorry if I've personally hurt some of your feelings, but these are just pieces of plastic you know?

The whole point here is that I'm talking about what reasons people that are yet to buy an XB1 may or may not have, it all comes down to how many exclusives there are, where the games are.

 

I'm not saying that there won't be people that want an XB1 for the better versions of games that are on 360, but the whole point is how many actual exclusives are coming to retail, only on XB1, in 2015 the number is 3 right now, I hope Microsoft can add more. Maybe the likes of Phantom Dust, Scalebound, Crackdown, maybe some surprize from Rare or a couple of the new 1st party studios can get some great games out as well to add to that.



I don't have any next-gen console, but Rise of the Tomb Raider, Halo 5 and Quantum Break are really making me lean toward Xbox One. I would probably get all those 3 games.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
JustBeingReal said:

You can't count them as console exclusives, because they're available on another console platform besides XB1.

You haven't addressed Crackdown either, it's not confirmed or even hinted at for 2015.

Strangely I clicked the Playstation lineup thread that is linked atop this thread and I didn't see you in that thread bitching about the numerous games that are ports of PS3 games or are also on PS3. In fact you made a lengthy gushing post about the greatness of that lineup. What up with that?


What PS3 ports are coming to PS4 in 2015? The PS4 has a tonne of retail exclusives, made only for it, if I didn't have a PS4 already then it would be that system that I would be looking to get because of all of those exclusives.

I am quite disappointed that Microsoft hasn't announced many games that are exclusive to only XB1 for 2015.

 

PS4's 2015 line-up of exclusives is awesome, as is the Wii U's, I'll always give praise where I feel it's due and I don't think 3 dedicated XB1 retail exclusives is worthy of praise. For all of the Xbox fans bashing Sony for some apparent lack of games (even though there have been an equal or even slightly greater number of dedicated exclusives so far) it's actually the XB1 that should be getting that stigma, Wii U has a fine line-up as well.

I won't be told what opinion to have by anyone, this forum is to give opinions on topics and that's what I'm doing.

 

If Microsoft changes the current situation (which I hope they will) and announces some additions for that line-up, confirms Phantom Dust, Crackdown and Scalebound to be 2015 games then that's an awesome line-up and there won't be any issues IMO, but the way things are right now it's 3 true retail exclusives for XB1 and that isn't a lot, I'm just calling a spade a spade.



JustBeingReal said:


What PS3 ports are coming to PS4 in 2015?

Just off the top of my head, Godzilla and USF IV. There are others too, but I am not going to bother doing your own homework. The point is your definition of exclusive and your acceptance of lists of said exclusives seems to vary wildly based on what system is on the receiving end.



NobleTeam360 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
JustBeingReal said:

You can't count them as console exclusives, because they're available on another console platform besides XB1.

You haven't addressed Crackdown either, it's not confirmed or even hinted at for 2015.

Strangely I clicked the Playstation lineup thread that is linked atop this thread and I didn't see you in that thread bitching about the numerous games that are ports of PS3 games or are also on PS3. In fact you made a lengthy gushing post about the greatness of that lineup. What up with that?

Damn you just exposed that guy, rofl


That guy didn't expose a thing, why shouldn't I praise a line-up of exclusives if I'm more interested in it? I'm praising the Wii U's line-up too, because it has a lot of exclusives next year.

I'll change my tune if Microsoft announces more and I like the look of them.

FYI I have an XBox 360, so I am in part an XBox gamer, I hope Microsoft does do more for 2015. Maybe some more indies, maybe some of their new internal studios can show the fruits of their labors, I'd like to know what they've been working on.

If Microsoft could hold a conference or do a direct style stream of announcements to pack out some of the empty months with more AAA retail exclusives that would be cool, I don't see why they can't, they announced Forza Horizon 2 when that was only a few months from release. Personally I expect Microsoft will change the situation with their exclusive line-up.



It's not a huge lineup (yet), but I actually want all of these. Well we'll see on Fable Legends, but the rest look great. Also I'm pretty sure Scalebound is scheduled for 2015 right now, which iis way up at the top of my most anticpated XBO games. All I'm interested in on the PS4 list is Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne, so XBO still winning for me.



JustBeingReal said:
TheSting said:
JustBeingReal said:
darkenergy said:

 

 

 

As far as software libraries go Wii U is the perfect complament to a PS4, the fact that the gamer buying that system doesn't have to pay for online, there's a lot more exclusives on it and the system is much cheaper than XB1, it all really adds up to Wii U getting much bigger sales in 2015 based on all of these things.

WiiU will be the perfect compliment to my Xbox One. Im not even going to touch your lol worthy opinions about Xbox. 

 

The fact you've commented at all being an XBox One owner already means you didn't even read or grasp my points. I'm speaking about gamers that either don't yet have an 8th generation console, have a 7th gen machine and have been considering getting a new console, they're going to look at the games that interest them. If a platform has all of the 3rd party titles, more exclusives (PS4) or just a great exclusive library altogether (Wii U) then it's going to be either of those systems that will interest them.

For existing PS4 owners Wii U is the system with the line-up of games that best compliments PS4 and the fact you don't have to pay for online, plus you can get the system considerably cheaper than an XB1 it only supports my points.

 

My comment was about gamers that haven't yet bought and XB1, the existing owners are the early adopters, the whole point about a comment about system sellers is that those games are moving hardware, Wii U and PS4 have more. I'm not shocked that my comments touched a nerve of an XB1 owner, but the whole point of my comment was to look at the hardware sales potential from the POV of people that don't yet have an XB1 and what reasons they may have, if any to buy an XB1.

Yep you don't know what you are talking about. What about the new owners? 2 3 months ago? It's selling and there are a ton of games with variety that haven't been played by new comers. You've made this your thread by trying to push such a bias opinion it's blinding.