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Chazore said:
Trunkin said:
RacerXGT said:
Chazore said:
I'd much love to see a lot of concrete evidence to show that Sony are "helping" capcom with SFV development, as in the whole deal for it to be equally compared to what Nintendo did with Bayo 2 because right now it hardly seems that way since Bayo 2 wouldn't of actually happened at all without Nintendo's help yet SFV would happen 100% even without Sony's help, it's not 100% the same exact deal and situation at all.


Not same but a much better deal, PS4 is the console of this gen.  Capcon can see this and is going all for PS4 as it will cost them almost no sales over all whiel ill help with dev by having Sonys support.  They picked the right horse to bank on this gen.

Skipping out on Xbox this gen will cost them millions of sales. They'd be pretty dumb to do so without some sort of compensation  from Sony. Exclusivity for a huge franchise like Street Fighter is a big deal.

Also, I'm not buying the whole cross play excuse. This isn't an MMO. there's no reason why Xbox gamers can't just play with themselves, like they've been doing for the past decade. 

This I can logically see, they will without a doubt lose money, sales and most likely rep from not putting it on the XB1 and giving the middle finger to the console will just reinforce peoples purchasing decisions, same goes for Wii U and 3DS owners with the Gamecube remake and Rev 2 not going on either of their platforms, Capcom is just limiting themselves more and more with bad decisions in the process, only those with the console of pref that are actually getting those games will defend such decisions simply because they are favoured, why would they even want to show a shred of logic and empathy for anyone else not sharing or having their console of pref?, I'm seeing it happen all over VGC when it coems to Sony or MS getting something.

 

His logic is somehow ebcause it's Capcom and Sony it's somehow a much better deal (trying to pass as subjectively and factually) than the one that happened between Nintendo and Platinum (Platinum are nowhere near popular and rich as capcom which means apples and oranges), without Nintnendo Bayo 2 literally would not happen, he ignores that important piece evidence and ignores the fact that SFV would still happen even if it wasn't exclusive to Sony since it's also coming on PC.

Funny thing is I'm not a fan of just one platform, I go where the games are but I know he's all PS with the post history to know there's bias in the works and no shred of care for anyone else so it's no surprise to have the "it's the bestestdeal ever peroid x10000" logic.

"best horse to bet on", yeah for money but you sacrifice more sales and tarnish your rep with other people, that's two cons to one pro, that's a loss no matter how you spin it, it's a fact that if you give one group the middle finger and refuse to sell to them while favouring another group you will lose rep with the group you shunned and less likely garner much if any sales from them in the future when you decide they are worth selling to,.

IF some company was to middle finger me and make a multiplat exclusive in such a way like that (Bayo 2 was a fine and justified example) I wouldn't want to give them any money in the future, why should I if my other systems I bought don't get a once multiplat gone exclusive game for no reason?.


Logic is PS4 will have a +20 million user base by Jan1, a 40 million user base by Late 2015 holidays.  Its a better deal because math says so, even with exclucivity they will release on majority user base of the console market, on the other one they are selling on a minority user base.

This is busniess not feelings or opinins of rep and middle fingers (really grow up).   Capcon is doing this becasue clearly they ran the numbers and they wont lose that much by not releasing on a minority user base, and given their chocie they value sonys support MORE then releasing it on X1.  

Capcon or Crystal are not retards, they run estimates and if they sign a deal with Sony or MS its becase its makes sense to do so.  

Well they clearly dont give a shit about you, do they.  

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XanderXT said:

 

And about Resi Revelations 2. They're porting it to the Vita, where it will sell worse than a Wii U port. Don't say "it sold poorly on the Wii U" arguement. If you say that, why are they porting it to PS3 and 360? Those versions sold so poorly for a 160m userbase. 


That's doubtfull. Need for Speed, AC Liberation and CoD on Vita massively outsold the Wii U versions.



Ka-pi96 said:
Probably very little or nothing at all. They helped with the development, that's how they got the deal.

Exactly.  Most of SF's market this gen is heavily dominated by the PS4 so it probably didn't take much to get this done.  Marketing, bundles, and some development help is totally enough.

 

As for RE, I mean it isn't that hard to port something to Vita, and it will sell really well in Japan.  Sony probably convinced them it would profit on its own and help them a little.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

I just wish RE Revelations 2 was on Wii U. hate switching platforms with a series game lol. It also should be on 3DS the platform that gave it life and money to make another.



 

 

As much as SONY haters want with their thoughts thinking SCEI pay the games, in fact Capcom is crediting the money to the bank and investor to get fund and another deals made thanks to PS4 sales 2:1 in the world that will be 3:1 in matter of year Lol.



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They funded development when Capcom couldn't. No idea about the specifics but this less Tomb Raider and more Bayonneta when it comes to "money hatting".



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

 

small44 said:
XanderXT said:
small44 said:
XanderXT said:
small44 said:
Resi Revelations 2 would sell more on vita then if it was on wii u

I doubt that. Besides, porting to the Wii U means the game won't be downgraded. Console ports like Borderlands 2 to the Vita don't end so well.

It will definitly sold more then on wii u just like Call of duty on psv outlsold call of duty on wii u and psp call of dutty outsold wii and ds version

Call of Duty Vita outselling Call of Duty Wii U just shows that Vita owners didn't care if they were buying a crappy game. Call of Duty PSP couldn't have outsold the Wii versions. They sold around 4 million on the Wii. Plus, Resident Evil and Call of Duty are different franchises! Call of Duty is a FPS, while Resident Evil is a Survival or Action Horror.

Only 1 call of duty game on wii  outsold the psp call of duty game the other 3 was selling worse then it,so you admit that call of duty on wii u sold worse then vita one so why do you think Resident evil revelations 2 would sold better on wii u then on psv


For one, Call of Duty has a tiny install base on the Wii U. Resident Evil has had a fanbase on a Nintendo consoles ever since the Gamecube days.



Eddie_Raja said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Probably very little or nothing at all. They helped with the development, that's how they got the deal.

Exactly.  Most of SF's market this gen is heavily dominated by the PS4 so it probably didn't take much to get this done.  Marketing, bundles, and some development help is totally enough.

 

As for RE, I mean it isn't that hard to port something to Vita, and it will sell really well in Japan.  Sony probably convinced them it would profit on its own and help them a little.


Of course it's hard to port to the Vita. Look at Borderlands 2! It was downgraded just to work on Vita!



Resident Evil had a fanbase on the Wii U in the Gamecube days. How is that even possible? ;)



Between 1 and 100 million. Seriously, how shall we know that?