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GribbleGrunger said:
LordLichtenstein said:

By the way, i've been thinking about extending the list, by including November and December of 2013. What do you guys think?

Why not? You might as well. You can always check here http://www.listwar.com/

PS4: 202

XB1: 134


I just added the rest from that website, but I came up short? 192 vs. 131



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DJEVOLVE said:
I also will add on, That's why they are called indies, because you know what your getting just by the name. Why name it if it's just all the same.

Rime, Hellblade, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, and The Witness are all indies. Tell me, do they look the same?



DJEVOLVE said:
steverhcp02 said:

Good post as usual. The people with their arms crossed in denial about how games are labeled and shouting for exclusion from these lists are like the guy in alabama with one tooth who thinks "....if only we secede".

I dont participate in any social media. No facebook, twitter, instagram. It isnt for me. But I dont have the ignorance or arrogance to pretend like they arent real things that people gravitate toward. People constantly seem baffled by sales when comparing "games" because they assume that "no one cares" about the smaller budget games without even entertaining the thought that theyre ignorant to a market thats changing while they are daydreaming of seceding. 


Lets make this easy, also I'm not a toothless southern bell, I make a lot of money for what I know.

Ok so lets put it on a scale  so you can understand.

If I'm a daredevil. I decide to do a competition with evil knievel jr or some random guy.

I decide that the amount of jumps we do is relevant. However he does a 100ft jump. I'm over here and I do a 5 ft jump 100 times. Is that the same thing? is it in the same catagory, no it is not.

Or lets make it about football.  If I make it on a Highschool football team and so in your logic it's the same as being on the pro's.

So there is a difference however this list serve's your purpose and  your console. The list should be seperate because it's in hole different catagory.

Also by your logic xbox one should have not invested millions into a AAA title but yet made 10-20 indies with that same money. Actually why even make AAA games? Why not just make a 1000 indies instead, because absolutly no one would buy the console. NEXT GEN GAMING SHOULD BE SEPERATE FROM # GENS AGO>

Yes do people want to play these games, SURE but it's still not in the same group.  That's why many things in life are subgrouped because they are not the same.  Dance music is dance music right? Well DNB are no where the same as House music ETC>>>>

At the first bolded. You just proved everyones point. There is no one who claims or has teh ability of declaring relevence but you assume it is you and your preferences which distorts the entire scenario.

At second bolded. Um no. What I am saying is that if 200 kids play high school football it has no effect on the Pros. Your implying that more high school kids playing means pros will lose their job or feel less inclined to play on sundays because of Texas high school football being high quality in a seperate category. It is still football.

Are you for real right now or just messing with me?



Serious_frusting said:
I remember a list very much like this one a little while back.

Damn the PS4 has has loads of games.


And most of them are indies 



LordLichtenstein said:
MONSTER UPDATE IN OP! I ADDED NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF 2013. IT IS NOW 192 vs. 131


I will be making another list shortly when I have time, Not seperating the list of indies and AAA is not detailed or a informative list.

This gives a insight into the quality, and what to expect from the game.  If this was not the case, then why then call them Indies in the first place? Because they are different. You can tell this upon the price they launch, graphics, gameplay, functionality etc.. some games do not get this right or perfect. 

However if indies are just important, then why don't they ask for the more money?  

It's like owning 100,000 house and million dollar house, yes both server their purpose but hardly the same.



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Hardcore_gamer said:


And most of them are indies 

Could you explain why singling them out as Indies makes a difference? I'm curious to know how and why simply saying 'but most of them are Indies' in any way changes a fact OR defines quality. If you're going to arbitrarily dismiss Indies, I want to know on what grounds. Of course it's going to be difficult because Indies are broader in scope to AAA.



 

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Chazore said:
And yet there's still nothing on that list I'd want or already own on my PC, it's making my choice of grabbing a Wii U early next year much more easier.

Someone is going to take that as a morbid sacrilege of an insult and will no doubt try to rub my opinion due to the fact they cannot accept someone not sharing theirs.

Why are you waiting? Holiday deals are the best you're probably going to get for a while. + It has 2 of its best games out now, Mk8 and Smash.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
DJEVOLVE said:


Really? that's why people buy next gen, Then by your logic my phone is by far the best next Gen CONSOLE. How about the lack of AAA games is the reason for the flood of Indies. 

Wonder how Publisher feel about spending millions upon millions on Triple AAA titles when people content with a game that doesn't even come close. Actually if I was a Publisher I would be offended by this list. 

The list should be AAA    -------- Indies

there is a big difference, combining them is being intellectual dishonest about the content on these game, also direspect to the people making the games.

FYI, mobile market is damn near toxic to indie devs to start in. Going from PC to mobile or even PC to console is more viable.

Yes because essentially anyone can make a indie. however I can't make a Halo or Deadrising etc... That's the difference. So to many Indies is a problem in these market places. so that's why MS screens them, so I don't have a massive list of games, have to try 1000 and only like 2. MS is screening so I don't have to. Sure it would be extremely easy to flood the market place with a bunch of indies, it would take a flick of a finger, creating the next AAA title takes a whole lot more time, effort, employees and cost.



DJEVOLVE said:
I also will add on, That's why they are called indies, because you know what your getting just by the name. Why name it if it's just all the same.

For the record, mostly forum dwellers call them indies. They are actually called games. And the term indie describing an game developed by an independent studio, not its budget which also only limits the scope of the game not its quality. Double Fine is indie.

So you actually don't know what you are getting just by the name.



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DJEVOLVE said:

Yes because essentially anyone can make a indie. however I can't make a Halo or Deadrising etc... That's the difference. So to many Indies is a problem in these market places. so that's why MS screens them, so I don't have a massive list of games, have to try 1000 and only like 2. MS is screening so I don't have to. Sure it would be extremely easy to flood the market place with a bunch of indies, it would take a flick of a finger, creating the next AAA title take a whole lot more.

Good Lord. You are pushing this Indie idea so far that you actually think the word itself defines the quality. Have you not seen the broad spectrum that Indie games define? Or are you deliberately choosing to think only of games like Angry Birds to help perpetuate this self inflicted delusion?

Are you a maths genious? Could you just throw together an infinite universe? Why would it be a problem anyway if MS decided to flood Live with Indies? Ater all, they're all trash so you'd just not bother trying any of them.



 

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