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LordLichtenstein said:
XanderXT said:
LordLichtenstein said:
What they "need" to do, is to put all of their games on the App Store and Google Play Store, and charge anything between $0.99-$4.99

Another person who wants to bring down Nintendo.


Nintendo should switch their focus from hardware to software. As a software company Nintendo would be bigger than ever before.

This is kind of a myth though. They actually make more money from hardware than they do from software. 

To make up for a loss of hardware they would have to sell something like 750 million smartphone games at $4.99 a pop

This is a good thread that goes into detail about it:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=740455



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Soundwave said:

This is kind of a myth though. They actually make more money from hardware than they do from software. 

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=740455

They have more revenue from hardware than from software, but most of their profit probably comes from the software.



magoghm said:
Soundwave said:

This is kind of a myth though. They actually make more money from hardware than they do from software. 

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=740455

They have more revenue from hardware than from software, but most of their profit probably comes from the software.

It's possible but you can also see why Nintendo would be reluctant to drop hardware. When done correctly it yeilds them a lot of money. 

I think next-gen they will go with a unifed software ecosystem and hardware using similar (mobile) chips. This way they will be able to make a very low cost home variant ($199.99 or less to start) which is profitable for most/all of its lifecycle. 

Wii U is way too expensive for what it is, next-gen IMO they will aim hard at the new generation of kids and try to win them away from tablets/phones. 



awesomeabe1998 said:
Ruler said:
they should drop the gamepad and make the console cheaper without losing any money. The Wii U is not competitive with costing 280 bucks, people wouldnt mind buying WiiUs for 150 to 200 to play exclusive games along their core machines.


Why would you buy an underpowered console with less games when you can get a powerful console with all the multiplayer plus some exclusives and better online for $200 extra?

I used to be a Sony customer during the last gen. When I look at the Ps4 and Xbox one I asked myself why should I buy an underpowered PC. I might get one of them in the future but for now the Wii u give me more then feeling of a real console.



Kerotan said:
LordLichtenstein said:

Nintendo should switch their focus from hardware to software. As a software company Nintendo would be bigger than ever before.


nintendo going forward will have low selling consoles but games that could sell boatloads. I've always said that for nintendo to stay relevant they needed to invent the handheko themsekves back when it came out. They were too stubborn to enter the mobile market then and prob didn't even dream up a device anything like it. Sadly for them at the time the DS was on it's way to be the second highest consoles ever. The iphone caused a major shift and even if they straight away partner with google and made a rival to the iphone they'd be in a better place today. 

Either they try break into the market now whixh is very hard or they go software and rake in millions. Pokemon and the like would make ridiculous money on iphones and androids especially in japan. They have a long console history so it must be too hard to let go. It will be their downfall if they don't. ANd how will that bother 3DS fans? Most of you anyway will have a smartphone or could get one as a result. You'll still get your games and nintendo will make even more money. 

As for the home console. The Wii was a fluke thanks to the motion controls. That has come and gone. Gamecube and Wii U are their natural level of sales and with Sony flying so high and MS willing to spend crazy money to stay relevany I can;'t see them squeexing back in with a traditional console. If they want to sell big numbers again they need to dream up another fad. THe obvious answer would be VR but SOny, Facebook and MS are all a few steps ahead there. 

Maybe their next console will be an Oculis rift type thing and it will capture the worlds imagination once again. I just don't see it happening. 


iPhone - 500 Million

Samsung Galaxy S - 200 Million

All-in-all, as of 2014, there has been shipped more than 1 Billion smartphones WW

Tablets only in 2013 - 195 Million


Nintendo should slowly enter the mobile market with well known franchises like Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

Re-release the games from the GB, GBA & DS era - $0.99-2.99
Re-release the games from the NES, N64 & GC era - $3.99-5.99

Release games for PS4, Xbox One & PC - $39.99-59.99

According to VGC's numbers:

New Super Mario Bros. U sold 4.32 million, if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 10+ million.
Mario Kart 8 sold 3.01, if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 10+ million.
Super Mario 3D world sold 2.39,  if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 5+ million
New Super Luigi U sold 1.81,  if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 5+ million

You get where I am going.


But, most important of all, merchandise! Just look at Angry Birds.








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My guess for there next console will be a more powerful console and will use 3D in making games.



Nintendo doesn't need to do anything. They do things their way and it works, ie they are profitable.

Will their market share approach that of the ps4? No.

However they can easily maintain a significant base with their unique, high quality first party titles. Focusing on 3rd party would be a gigantic mistake. The system doesn't need more horsepower, but would benefit from ditching the gamepad- yes it's possible, and most likely plans to do so are already well underway. More than anything, the gamepad is dragging wii u sales down. At 199 or 149 the sales would skyrocket.



LordLichtenstein said:


iPhone - 500 Million

Samsung Galaxy S - 200 Million

All-in-all, as of 2014, there has been shipped more than 1 Billion smartphones WW

Tablets only in 2013 - 195 Million


Nintendo should slowly enter the mobile market with well known franchises like Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

Re-release the games from the GB, GBA & DS era - $0.99-2.99
Re-release the games from the NES, N64 & GC era - $3.99-5.99

Release games for PS4, Xbox One & PC - $39.99-59.99

According to VGC's numbers:

New Super Mario Bros. U sold 4.32 million, if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 10+ million.
Mario Kart 8 sold 3.01, if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 10+ million.
Super Mario 3D world sold 2.39,  if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 5+ million
New Super Luigi U sold 1.81,  if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 5+ million

You get where I am going.


But, most important of all, merchandise! Just look at Angry Birds.

You know nintendo already makes a lot of money of merchanidise, they were doing it before angry birds, and they will be doing it after angry birds is long forgotten.

Also nintendo going software only would narrow down the list of games they make to zelda, mario, and pokemon essentially. Similarly to how sega has no use for it's lower sellling IPs anymore now that they don't need to sell a console or keep a fanbase happy. Nintendo also keeps ALL their profits from their own games, and doesn't have to spend as much money making them for multiple higher end systems. Selling 4.32 million on wii u might actually net them more profit than 10 million on PS4/ONE/PC.



LordLichtenstein said:
Kerotan said:
LordLichtenstein said:

Nintendo should switch their focus from hardware to software. As a software company Nintendo would be bigger than ever before.


nintendo going forward will have low selling consoles but games that could sell boatloads. I've always said that for nintendo to stay relevant they needed to invent the handheko themsekves back when it came out. They were too stubborn to enter the mobile market then and prob didn't even dream up a device anything like it. Sadly for them at the time the DS was on it's way to be the second highest consoles ever. The iphone caused a major shift and even if they straight away partner with google and made a rival to the iphone they'd be in a better place today. 

Either they try break into the market now whixh is very hard or they go software and rake in millions. Pokemon and the like would make ridiculous money on iphones and androids especially in japan. They have a long console history so it must be too hard to let go. It will be their downfall if they don't. ANd how will that bother 3DS fans? Most of you anyway will have a smartphone or could get one as a result. You'll still get your games and nintendo will make even more money. 

As for the home console. The Wii was a fluke thanks to the motion controls. That has come and gone. Gamecube and Wii U are their natural level of sales and with Sony flying so high and MS willing to spend crazy money to stay relevany I can;'t see them squeexing back in with a traditional console. If they want to sell big numbers again they need to dream up another fad. THe obvious answer would be VR but SOny, Facebook and MS are all a few steps ahead there. 

Maybe their next console will be an Oculis rift type thing and it will capture the worlds imagination once again. I just don't see it happening. 


iPhone - 500 Million

Samsung Galaxy S - 200 Million

All-in-all, as of 2014, there has been shipped more than 1 Billion smartphones WW

Tablets only in 2013 - 195 Million


Nintendo should slowly enter the mobile market with well known franchises like Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

Re-release the games from the GB, GBA & DS era - $0.99-2.99
Re-release the games from the NES, N64 & GC era - $3.99-5.99

Release games for PS4, Xbox One & PC - $39.99-59.99

According to VGC's numbers:

New Super Mario Bros. U sold 4.32 million, if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 10+ million.
Mario Kart 8 sold 3.01, if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 10+ million.
Super Mario 3D world sold 2.39,  if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 5+ million
New Super Luigi U sold 1.81,  if released on PS4, Xbox One & PC, they could potentially have sold 5+ million

You get where I am going.


But, most important of all, merchandise! Just look at Angry Birds.







agreed. and if they released a new pokemon on smartphones they wouldn't sell it for $4.99 like some said to you. They would sell it at like $30. All the nintendo fans and some more iwll pay that considering it's a full pokemon game they usually pay more for and then as the game gets cheaper more and more people buy it who wouldn't have otherwise. Eventually after a few years it would be $4.99. Its actually scary the money Ninty could make this way and so many of their top games are suited to mobile. They will prob be too stubborn though, a bit like Sony with some of their divisions. Must be a Japanese thing lol 



McGilliguts said:

Nintendo doesn't need to do anything. They do things their way and it works, ie they are profitable.

Will their market share approach that of the ps4? No.

However they can easily maintain a significant base with their unique, high quality first party titles. Focusing on 3rd party would be a gigantic mistake. The system doesn't need more horsepower, but would benefit from ditching the gamepad- yes it's possible, and most likely plans to do so are already well underway. More than anything, the gamepad is dragging wii u sales down. At 199 or 149 the sales would skyrocket.


Just because ninty made a little profit last quarter doesn't mean they have made money over all on the Wii U. They have a lot of losses to make up from that product still.