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MegaDrive08 said:
oniyide said:
awesomeabe1998 said:
generic-user-1 said:
awesomeabe1998 said:

Why would you buy an underpowered console with less games when you can get a powerful console with all the multiplayer plus some exclusives and better online for $200 extra?


because nintendo games have the highest quality and are realy fun?


I agree with you on that one but the average consumer does not know that.

no the average consumer doenst BELIEVE that. Big difference. Nintendo has the highest quality isnt truth its a opinion no amount of posting is going to make it true. The numbers prove that.

Nintendo do offer the best quality, complete games packed with content, you get more bang for your buck with Nintendo, look at the quality DLC on MK8, you get a complete new game for about £13 or whatever it is, these other companys try and nickle and dime you for DLC and people support it and these companys are getting worse with it because gamers are letting them get away with it, for stuff that should of been in the game to begin with, look at smash bros packed with quality content, you get a complete game when you purchase it, quality! which quite frankly your not getting from these other third party companys.


opinions and more opinions. A paragraph of it is nto going to change. Money talks, numbers arent lying. IT doesnt matter what its packed wiht if people dont LIKE the game to begin with are arent willing to buy it no amount of "quality" DLC is gonna change that.



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oniyide said:
MegaDrive08 said:

Nintendo do offer the best quality, complete games packed with content, you get more bang for your buck with Nintendo, look at the quality DLC on MK8, you get a complete new game for about £13 or whatever it is, these other companys try and nickle and dime you for DLC and people support it and these companys are getting worse with it because gamers are letting them get away with it, for stuff that should of been in the game to begin with, look at smash bros packed with quality content, you get a complete game when you purchase it, quality! which quite frankly your not getting from these other third party companys.


opinions and more opinions. A paragraph of it is nto going to change. Money talks, numbers arent lying. IT doesnt matter what its packed wiht if people dont LIKE the game to begin with are arent willing to buy it no amount of "quality" DLC is gonna change that.

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?



generic-user-1 said:
oniyide said:
MegaDrive08 said:
 

Nintendo do offer the best quality, complete games packed with content, you get more bang for your buck with Nintendo, look at the quality DLC on MK8, you get a complete new game for about £13 or whatever it is, these other companys try and nickle and dime you for DLC and people support it and these companys are getting worse with it because gamers are letting them get away with it, for stuff that should of been in the game to begin with, look at smash bros packed with quality content, you get a complete game when you purchase it, quality! which quite frankly your not getting from these other third party companys.


opinions and more opinions. A paragraph of it is nto going to change. Money talks, numbers arent lying. IT doesnt matter what its packed wiht if people dont LIKE the game to begin with are arent willing to buy it no amount of "quality" DLC is gonna change that.

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?

Inb4 goal posting moving with the word gimmick in it. 



Multishanks said:
generic-user-1 said:
oniyide said:
MegaDrive08 said:
 

Nintendo do offer the best quality, complete games packed with content, you get more bang for your buck with Nintendo, look at the quality DLC on MK8, you get a complete new game for about £13 or whatever it is, these other companys try and nickle and dime you for DLC and people support it and these companys are getting worse with it because gamers are letting them get away with it, for stuff that should of been in the game to begin with, look at smash bros packed with quality content, you get a complete game when you purchase it, quality! which quite frankly your not getting from these other third party companys.


opinions and more opinions. A paragraph of it is nto going to change. Money talks, numbers arent lying. IT doesnt matter what its packed wiht if people dont LIKE the game to begin with are arent willing to buy it no amount of "quality" DLC is gonna change that.

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?

Inb4 goal posting moving with the word gimmick in it. 


 it ust had the normal wii controlls, there was no gimmick in those games.  and it was sold to the same crowd cod and halo is sold to, casual gamers.



Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:
oniyide said:


opinions and more opinions. A paragraph of it is nto going to change. Money talks, numbers arent lying. IT doesnt matter what its packed wiht if people dont LIKE the game to begin with are arent willing to buy it no amount of "quality" DLC is gonna change that.

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?

Seems pretty obvious to me that he is just saying quality is subjective...

yes, im know, he doesnt understand that thats wrong. the quality is objective, if u like a game or not, thats subjective.

u can dislike the game with the best quality ever, and u can like et 2600, nothing wrong with that, but saying et 2600 has higher quality than smb because u like it more is WRONG.



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awesomeabe1998 said:
binary solo said:
awesomeabe1998 said:

 SBBU sold 481k in the span of two days globally.

Is this another globally in the USA thread?

 


Lol, but no it isn't. According to VGChartz SSBU sold 419k in the US.

460K for North America (i.e. US+Canada)

30K rest of world, i.e. only one other market, probably Mexico.

That spells globally in the USA to me.

Actual globally will be after EU and every country that is covered by RoW launches.

Anyway, OT There is nothing Nintendo can do now, or possibly ever in terms of appealing to the hobbyist gamer. Nintendo has it's core audience (and I don't mean "hard core gamer", I mean gamer who buys every Nintendo home console) and it's not very big. If Nintendo is going to do anything to sustainably incrfease market share it needs to go for first console buyers in a way that the Nintendo console does not seem like a "my first console" after which you "graduate" to the Xbox, PS or PC for gaming.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Quality is honestly overrated. The consumer wants choice, they want to choose which games they play, not to have the console manufacturer "dictate" to them what to play. They may simply just want a basketball game or a shooting game or whatever, they don't want to be told "well you should play Pikmin instead because it's a better quality game".

Consumer doesn't want to hear that.

People just want a *format* that lets them play the widest variety of games. From there then they consider exclusives/marketing as a secondary option.

It's just game "nerds" on message boards that play up these things but it's not how the average consumer thinks.

With the exception of the Wii which was a one-shot craze that appealled to soccer moms/senior citizens/non-gaming women, no console without the central third party support of its day has done great.

That goes for Nintendo too -- the NES and SNES were basically the "Playstation" of their day giving people the widest range of content, while the Sega Master System tried to sell itself on 1st party games alone. And it even had some killer 1st party games too (Alex Kidd, Afterburner, Out Run, Space Harrier, etc.), but no one would buy a Sega over a NES which had hundreds of different games to choose from.



Ruler said:
they should drop the gamepad and make the console cheaper without losing any money. The Wii U is not competitive with costing 280 bucks, people wouldnt mind buying WiiUs for 150 to 200 to play exclusive games along their core machines.


seriously, more "drop the gamepad" crap. It isn't going to happen. It's, unlike the kinect, directly implemented into the system and there are some games on the system that would be rendered unplayable without the gamepad. It is what it is. 



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

Dusk said:
Ruler said:
they should drop the gamepad and make the console cheaper without losing any money. The Wii U is not competitive with costing 280 bucks, people wouldnt mind buying WiiUs for 150 to 200 to play exclusive games along their core machines.


seriously, more "drop the gamepad" crap. It isn't going to happen. It's, unlike the kinect, directly implemented into the system and there are some games on the system that would be rendered unplayable without the gamepad. It is what it is. 

The real reason they can't drop it is likely because they have a large inventory of manufactured gamepads. If they dropped the pad, they would have to eat the loss on those controllers and they likely are unwilling to do so. That and probably they are too proud to admit they made a mistake with the controller.



Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?

Seems pretty obvious to me that he is just saying quality is subjective...

yes, im know, he doesnt understand that thats wrong. the quality is objective, if u like a game or not, thats subjective.

u can dislike the game with the best quality ever, and u can like et 2600, nothing wrong with that, but saying et 2600 has higher quality than smb because u like it more is WRONG.

Quality most certainly is subjective. Somebody has got to decide what should be deemed as quality before they can say how much quality it has, therefore it is very much subjective.


yeah, somebody had to decide if a game with shitloads of bugs and glitches is better or one without those bugs.

and somebody had to decide if working controlls are better or those that dont respond at all.

 

 

and @soundwave who said u arnt allowed to play and enjoy low quality games?

and the mastersystem was so succesfull, but the Genesis WAS.