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Forums - Sales - Global Hardware 22nd of November 2014

mornelithe said:
Intrinsic said:
bouzane said:

I don't know why a clown car of PC opponents has to roll up and take turns defending consoles or detracting from PCs everytime I make a simple statement about the similarities between the two. Nate4Drake acted as if you can not enjoy your PC in the comfort of your living room and I pointed out that you can, that is all. Approximately the same cost, the same TV, the same controller, the same couch and many of the same games. That's all I'm saying. I don't understand why the console defense force has to show up everytime I point this out.

"the console defense force" (way to go about having a clean conversation) keeps coming out when Pc people find every way possible to bring in PCs in every single console discussion. Something led to him saying he preferred playing his console on his Tv right? I am sure if we track the posts back to the origin, its always a PC guy saying something that will entice some sort of response then the rest of you will just stroll in with all your "facts".

How about this, if someone said he prefers plugging in his PC to a 1080p tv, would you feel the need and obligation to point out the "fact" that you can do the exact same thing with a console? Or if someone says he likes plugging in his XB1, should we all go and tell him how silly he is cause he could have got a PS4 with the same amount of money or less?

All I am saying, is that PC gamers have a way of making every single thread on this forum about PCs. Like they just find their way into it somehow. Thats why we are talking about PCs in a console sales thread... shocking isn't it? You say this happens everytime you state these facts of yours right? well could it be that we are aware of the facts? we hear you loud and clear, you don't need to keep telling us.


The really funny thing out of all of this?  It was Nate4drake who first mentioned PC in the first place. So really you should be bitching at him for bringing it up.

Nope, it was not me, I just answered a guy who said the best PS4 games are also available on PC, and he couldn't understand why PS4 is selling so good.

Please next time read better through the posts.



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Nate4Drake said:

Nope, it was not me, I just answered a guy who said the best PS4 games are also available on PC, and he couldn't understand why PS4 is selling so good.

Please next time read better through the posts.

Likewise, I already told him what was up.   Should probably take your own advice.  



mornelithe said:
Nate4Drake said:

Nope, it was not me, I just answered a guy who said the best PS4 games are also available on PC, and he couldn't understand why PS4 is selling so good.

Please next time read better through the posts.

Likewise, I already told him what was up.   Should probably take your own advice.  


No problem mate :)

So, week ending Nov 29th ?  1M-1.2M PS4 sold ?    We will see soon.



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Harriet Tubman.

Nate4Drake said:
mornelithe said:

Likewise, I already told him what was up.   Should probably take your own advice.  


No problem mate :)

So, week ending Nov 29th ?  1M-1.2M PS4 sold ?    We will see soon.

Honestly no idea, as is typical for the holidays (I'm also terrible at predicting sales hah, which is why I never do, or very very rarely do), most consoles will sell gangbusters, but,  I think they're a poor metric for guaging popularity, as the rush is just massive and everyone is out to buy new shiny's.  What I mean is, the real interesting thing is going to be how things even out after the holidays.  Come January, where are the weekly sales going to be at for everyone?  Will the sales disparity come back, or will things even out to a more balanced split?



kowenicki said:
thelalaby said:


I would agree with you if Xbone didn't have huge bundles and titles released over the past three weeks, raising sales to a higher-than-usual level. I'm curious, why are you neglecting the fact that sales were boosted last week in particular by Halo bundles and the effect of that on this week's numbers?

seems I was right....

Not really lol. If you're referring to the recent MCV article it doesn't say anything about the weekly boost before BF.

Unless of course you believe XB1 did something like 120k+ in BF week.



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kowenicki said:
Ninsect said:
kowenicki said:

seems I was right....

Not really lol. If you're referring to the recent MCV article it doesn't say anything about the weekly boost before BF.

Unless of course you believe XB1 did something like 120k+ in BF week.


I'm sorry.  Do you even know what we are talking about?

No need to be sorry. Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. You felt like the 17% boost was too low for XB1. Now you're saying you were correct based on...?



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Yet no one explained the inconvenience of gaming PC not being as durable as consoles, plagued with virus world and being a lot bigger to fit on a home theather without looking ugly. Besides the sexyness of PlayStations and minimalism of the WiiU and Wii.

 

Funny that people love to say they don't derail threads while doing exactly that.

 

Kowen your reason to doubt the boost was because no way x1 would do worst than the other 2 right? So you just guessed right, no need to gloat.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

Yet no one explained the inconvenience of gaming PC not being as durable as consoles, plagued with virus world and being a lot bigger to fit on a home theather without looking ugly. Besides the sexyness of PlayStations and minimalism of the WiiU and Wii.

 

Funny that people love to say they don't derail threads while doing exactly that.

 

Kowen your reason to doubt the boost was because no way x1 would do worst than the other 2 right? So you just guessed right, no need to gloat.

Entirely subjective, virii are for children who don't know how to protect their machines.  Seriously, it's 2014, not 2001.   My PC is also every bit as durable as a console (in fact, I don't recall ever having as much problems with my PC, as RRoD).  As far as home theater, again, subjective, anyone with an ounce of skill can put a PC together in any kind of form factor they desire to be aesthetically pleasing.



mornelithe said:
DonFerrari said:

Yet no one explained the inconvenience of gaming PC not being as durable as consoles, plagued with virus world and being a lot bigger to fit on a home theather without looking ugly. Besides the sexyness of PlayStations and minimalism of the WiiU and Wii.

 

Funny that people love to say they don't derail threads while doing exactly that.

 

Kowen your reason to doubt the boost was because no way x1 would do worst than the other 2 right? So you just guessed right, no need to gloat.

Entirely subjective, virii are for children who don't know how to protect their machines.  Seriously, it's 2014, not 2001.   My PC is also every bit as durable as a console (in fact, I don't recall ever having as much problems with my PC, as RRoD).  As far as home theater, again, subjective, anyone with an ounce of skill can put a PC together in any kind of form factor they desire to be aesthetically pleasing.

Talking in durability more in the relevance+longeivity not only not breaking (my PCs were usable for 10years and in my company we have some PCs that are over 30y in daily use... altough they are almost like consoles dedicated to a single function), like keeping the same equipment for 10 years and be sure everything will run as if as possible without any special hassle and nostalgic feelings to play really old games as they were ment when you pick your older gen stored.

I haven't seem any desktop assembly as pleasing as any consoles, specially PSs, Ninties and Segas, and almost in all cases the equivalent machine will be a lot bigger and more inconvenient to put in the home looking good. But sure you can always encase it in some forgotten side drawer with enough ventilation and bluetooth/wiifi peripherics, but all that add to the bother of having a PC on the TV (altough I usually put my notebook on the tv to watch some things or use the media capabilitie through PS3).

But we can't ignore that all that adds for some people not wanting to put a PC in their main room... and we don't need much "evidence" to know how uncommun is to have someone with this kind of set on the general population and that may justify a person that mainly play multiplats buying console instead of gaming pcs.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ka-pi96 said:
EoRdE6 said:

The PS3 is not selling that much in Europe. Period. My local gamestores have stopped stocking PS3 permantly, so has Argos... Still stock X360 though...

So... where are you from? Because here in the UK I can quite clearly see 5 different PS3 SKUs in stock at Argos...


Obviously you dont live in Alnwick then eh?