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CosmicSex said:
KLAMarine said:
CosmicSex said:
Mr Khan said:
Nope, no indictment

Today's just been a spectacular day, hasn't it :-/

The police are supposed to be public servants and aren't supposed to be carrying out executions.  Its not acceptable.  There are cases where police hae shot black men on the gound, handcuffed.  The video is online.  When you see things like this, the obvious reaction is outrage. 

This wasn't an execution though. From the sounds of it, seems more like self-defense to me. Wilson defending himself from Brown.


Brown was unarmed.  Thats the issue here.  There are was to subdue people without killing them.  Either way, no one like to here of public servants killing unarmed people.  Its just not okay.   I wasn't there and I don't know what happened, but the isn't the first time an unarmed man has been killed by the police.   In the black community, they see a huge disparity in these incidents and that is worth talking about.  In a mature manner.   Listenting to the President who is speaking now, he makes a good point.  People need to remain peaceful, and find constructive ways to channel their fustration. 

 Mike Brown has been proven to have a bad history. There's video footage of Brown robbing a store and assaulting the staff in the process, before going outside to his altercation with Officer Wilson. His figerprints were found on officer Wilson's firearm, proving that he attempted to grab it. There was a fight and hospital records detailing the injuries Wilson sustained in their fight. This was NOT a public execution. This was an officer of the law defending himself against a thug. It's as simple as that. A person was killed because he thought he was above the law, tried to fight an armed police officer, and got killed because of it. The real issue is that race has been dragged into it. Why does it have a white man killed a black man? Why can't it just be a person killed another person? I'll tell you why... Because idiots let our bullshit media use race to control and divide us because it's what gets them the best ratings. 

Ironically, I could post a long ass list right here of whites that have been killed by blacks, in just 2014 alone, that got completely ignored by the media. Thing is, that would get us nowhere. People just need to shut the fuck up and accept this for what it is. People wanted Darren Wilson to go before a grand jury, and that's what happened. Justice is what you want it to be; it's what is right. 





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My city is in flames right now and the only thing I can really say is that I so look forward to the return of Jesus. I'm weary of this type of nonsense, weary of the ignorance of politicians/athletes speaking on the matter, weary of people of certain races assuming that someone is innocent just because of the color of his skin, and weary of people burning down businesses/cars/and harming people that are completely unrelated to the case just so they can get a quick buck or have something to laugh about. It's sick.

It's simple. If you DON'T want a cop to shoot at you, you probably shouldn't try to beat the crap out of him or harm him in anyway.



thismeintiel said:
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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
thismeintiel said:

And what policy needs to be reformed.  A giant man was charging at him.  Regardless of whether he was a citizen or a police officer, he would have pulled his gun and fired.  Or is the new policy supposed to be to just take the beating?

How about better training at self-defense, so you know non-lethal options can be taken first, I mean he is an officer, shouldn't that be mandatory. Better shooting lessons perhaps, bullets have a lot of stopping power you know, its not like the "giant man" was also a man of steel. A different officer at the scene perhaps. How about not leaving the body in the street for hours. I don't give a damn about the outcome of the court case itself because the outcome was apparent to me from day 1. What I am talking about is how the Wilson's Agency reacted and poorly managed the situation. Rioting is indicative a fundamental disconect between the officers and the citizens they are sworn to protect.

And regardless of the outcome I can guarantee that absolutely nothing will change from this. More big black men will get shot and or beaten to a pulp, preventing theoretical crimes and theoretical beatings from happening, meanwhile school shootings happen all the time. That's what I'm annoyed with.

And seriously, whats wrong with taking a beating? He'll live its not like that guy was going to break his spine or something. If your not prepared to take on the hazards of the job, why the fuck are you a police officer. How are you gonna protect and serve when you can't even protect your self.

What's wrong with a beating? You do know you can kill another human being with your bare hands right? Or inflict life long crippling injuries and/or brain damage. I have served in the military and have been nursing for over 12 years and I can tell you that "taking a beating" can be deadly. No human should have to compromise their personal safety and given the chance should be allowed to defend themselves with deadly force if necessary. You have no idea the damage a human being can do to another with just their bare fists. Not to mention the officer has a gun on him and anyone willing to attack you while armed probably isn't going to stop at just a beating. Officers do get self defense training etc. but there is ALWAYS going to be someone or a situation that can get away from you and you may have to resort to the most final or extreme measure to survive it. Cops are human just like you are.

I find your naivete slightly on that point disturbing. Your one of those why don't they just shoot them in leg and cripple them people aren't you? You probably have no idea why it took the officer several shot to stop this human being from continuing to come at him after attacking him. 

But what I find particularly disturbing is your indifference to the safety of someone whose job it is to protect YOUR safety even more so.

Couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't even try. 

Though, I will say, it really ticks me off about this whole black vs. white BS.  If this had been a white man who had robbed a store, assualted a black police officer before charging at him and being shot, we wouldn't have heard a god damn thing about it.  But, with the exact same situation, because it was a white cop and a black man, it's all of a sudden racism.  And just like any other case of this kind, for those on the side of the criminal, the facts don't matter at all.  It doesn't matter when eye witnesses (most of them black) corroborate the shooters/officers story.  All that matters is the false story that "civil rights activist" and "reporters" put forward in the first few minutes/hours following the shooting.  "This gentle giant (forget the part where he man-handled a store clerk and officer) was murdered in cold blood after throwing his hands up and getting down on his knees, surrendering (forget the part where he actually charged the officer with the intent to harm/kill him.)


Yea I heard about that. There was a guy supposedly arguing with the officer minutes after it happened and he was saying something like " he was raising his hands up like this *guy raises his hands* when you shot him". The video looked as if the guy was in some park across the street or something arguing/talking to the officer who was across the street.

 

If what you said was true in your last comment to me, then Mike Brown started something he should be ashamed(in death) of starting. I guess the Mike Brown suppporters feel like something different happened to what was being told by Wilson based on other sources like the video of the guy who was talking to the officer right after the shooting.

 

So on the racial side of things it's basically

 

Black people = "Typical white people always killing and doing horrible things to other races and then trying to act innocent and lieing about it"

 

And

 

White people = "Typical black people always thinking that somebody is out to get them while ignoring the facts of what really happened and overreacting for nothing"

 

So who is right? Who do we believe? Unfortunately, there was nobody around to record the whole incident to know. The only thing we can really do is listen to the individuals who saw it all and thats Wilson and Mike Brown. Being that Brown isn't with us, we can only really listen to what Wilson say's.

 

Now even if Wilson killed Brown in an unneccessary manner, he would honestly be the idiot of the universe to admit to it lol. But going by everything we know, it looks like Mike Brown was the one that was in the wrong. I dont know if that's factual that Mike Brown charged at the officer when he approached his car but if he did then HE is the idiot of the universe.

 

On Wilsons part, I hope that he's telling the truth so I can know that he didn't kill Mike Brown in an unjust way. On Mike Brown's part.. being that he's already gone, I hope that the officer is lieing and that Mike didn't try to pull some dumb shit like that(rushing at the officer, trying to grab his gun, etc). 

 

If he really did pull this dumb shit, I would love to have a chat with him on the other side. I hope he see's every bit of what's happening because of him. I would love to say "look what your decisions have done. You got yourself killed because you didn't want to go to jail for robbing a store. Look what you have your black people out here doing. They're rioting because they think you died an unjust death when you possibly brought it upon yourself. They're out here rioting for what? an individual who was ridiculously in the wrong? And the officer has to deal with all this shit because of your poor decisions."

 

.. but who knows.

 

The never-ending racial spiral continues.. 



outlawauron said:
keroncoward said:
Areym said:

Exactly. They are showing all of america, all of the world, why the cops in Ferguson profile blacks (granted, there are other races in the protests/riots and it's not every black person)

Exactly, anyone who has followed the peaceful protest in ferguson will realize there are a lot of whites protesting with them that live in that neighbourhood and know what is going on. Mike Brown was just the tipping point cause it got a little more media attention than the multiple incidents that happen.

Well, I certainly know your point of view is certainly not skewed in any way.


The protest was peaceful up until now. My advice to you is dont watch Fox News they blatantly have a bias against minorities and try to brainwash as much clueless people as possible.



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My city is in flames right now and the only thing I can really say is that I so look forward to the return of Jesus. I'm weary of this type of nonsense, weary of the ignorance of politicians/athletes speaking on the matter, weary of people of certain races assuming that someone is innocent just because of the color of his skin, and weary of people burning down businesses/cars/and harming people that are completely unrelated to the case just so they can get a quick buck or have something to laugh about. It's sick.

It's simple. If you DON'T want a cop to shoot at you, you probably shouldn't try to beat the crap out of him or harm him in anyway.

Stop it lol. You might be gone before the creator "arrives".

 

Get in tune with yourself. Be aware of the things you ignored before. Stop obsessing over the things of this world. Detach yourself from the racial spiral. Realise that this specific existence is not where we are supposed to be. Realise that we have a purpose that is being hidden. Isn't it a known fact that the average humans only use like 10% of our brain? That is not by accident. 

 

This world is never going to change. That is why history keeps repeating itself. This existence is not where we are supposed to be but yet we are stuck here and the sorrow, panic and fear keep filling the air. You want to meet the creator? Take a step back, open your eyes, open up your mind and you might have a chance..



keroncoward said:
outlawauron said:
keroncoward said:
Areym said:

Exactly. They are showing all of america, all of the world, why the cops in Ferguson profile blacks (granted, there are other races in the protests/riots and it's not every black person)

Exactly, anyone who has followed the peaceful protest in ferguson will realize there are a lot of whites protesting with them that live in that neighbourhood and know what is going on. Mike Brown was just the tipping point cause it got a little more media attention than the multiple incidents that happen.

Well, I certainly know your point of view is certainly not skewed in any way.


The protest was peaceful up until now. My advice to you is dont watch Fox News they blatantly have a bias against minorities and try to brainwash as much clueless people as possible.

I don't watch Fox News, but there's hundreds of videos and images that aren't skewed. They show while some were protesting peacefully, as a whole, it has not been a peaceful protest.



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NightDragon83 said:
All I gotta say to the people in or around Ferguson after the grand jury's decision is read... is hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husband!


So glad my wife finally joins me in the UK next week. She works in Ferguson atm. Though has now been given the rest of the week off.



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outlawauron said:
keroncoward said:
outlawauron said:
keroncoward said:
Areym said:

Exactly. They are showing all of america, all of the world, why the cops in Ferguson profile blacks (granted, there are other races in the protests/riots and it's not every black person)

Exactly, anyone who has followed the peaceful protest in ferguson will realize there are a lot of whites protesting with them that live in that neighbourhood and know what is going on. Mike Brown was just the tipping point cause it got a little more media attention than the multiple incidents that happen.

Well, I certainly know your point of view is certainly not skewed in any way.


The protest was peaceful up until now. My advice to you is dont watch Fox News they blatantly have a bias against minorities and try to brainwash as much clueless people as possible.

I don't watch Fox News, but there's hundreds of videos and images that aren't skewed. They show while some were protesting peacefully, as a whole, it has not been a peaceful protest.


Well im talking about the majority in general.



enditall727 said:

 Isn't it a known fact that the average humans only use like 10% of our brain? That is not by accident. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth