Ferguson officer Darren Wilson not indicted

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thismeintiel said:

-CraZed- said:

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

thismeintiel said:

And what policy needs to be reformed.  A giant man was charging at him.  Regardless of whether he was a citizen or a police officer, he would have pulled his gun and fired.  Or is the new policy supposed to be to just take the beating?

How about better training at self-defense, so you know non-lethal options can be taken first, I mean he is an officer, shouldn't that be mandatory. Better shooting lessons perhaps, bullets have a lot of stopping power you know, its not like the "giant man" was also a man of steel. A different officer at the scene perhaps. How about not leaving the body in the street for hours. I don't give a damn about the outcome of the court case itself because the outcome was apparent to me from day 1. What I am talking about is how the Wilson's Agency reacted and poorly managed the situation. Rioting is indicative a fundamental disconect between the officers and the citizens they are sworn to protect.

And regardless of the outcome I can guarantee that absolutely nothing will change from this. More big black men will get shot and or beaten to a pulp, preventing theoretical crimes and theoretical beatings from happening, meanwhile school shootings happen all the time. That's what I'm annoyed with.

And seriously, whats wrong with taking a beating? He'll live its not like that guy was going to break his spine or something. If your not prepared to take on the hazards of the job, why the fuck are you a police officer. How are you gonna protect and serve when you can't even protect your self.

What's wrong with a beating? You do know you can kill another human being with your bare hands right? Or inflict life long crippling injuries and/or brain damage. I have served in the military and have been nursing for over 12 years and I can tell you that "taking a beating" can be deadly. No human should have to compromise their personal safety and given the chance should be allowed to defend themselves with deadly force if necessary. You have no idea the damage a human being can do to another with just their bare fists. Not to mention the officer has a gun on him and anyone willing to attack you while armed probably isn't going to stop at just a beating. Officers do get self defense training etc. but there is ALWAYS going to be someone or a situation that can get away from you and you may have to resort to the most final or extreme measure to survive it. Cops are human just like you are.

I find your naivete slightly on that point disturbing. Your one of those why don't they just shoot them in leg and cripple them people aren't you? You probably have no idea why it took the officer several shot to stop this human being from continuing to come at him after attacking him. 

But what I find particularly disturbing is your indifference to the safety of someone whose job it is to protect YOUR safety even more so.

Couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't even try. 

Though, I will say, it really ticks me off about this whole black vs. white BS.  If this had been a white man who had robbed a store, assualted a black police officer before charging at him and being shot, we wouldn't have heard a god damn thing about it.  But, with the exact same situation, because it was a white cop and a black man, it's all of a sudden racism.  And just like any other case of this kind, for those on the side of the criminal, the facts don't matter at all.  It doesn't matter when eye witnesses (most of them black) corroborate the shooters/officers story.  All that matters is the false story that "civil rights activist" and "reporters" put forward in the first few minutes/hours following the shooting.  "This gentle giant (forget the part where he man-handled a store clerk and officer) was murdered in cold blood after throwing his hands up and getting down on his knees, surrendering (forget the part where he actually charged the officer with the intent to harm/kill him.)

Yea I heard about that. There was a guy supposedly arguing with the officer minutes after it happened and he was saying something like " he was raising his hands up like this *guy raises his hands* when you shot him". The video looked as if the guy was in some park across the street or something arguing/talking to the officer who was across the street.

 

If what you said was true in your last comment to me, then Mike Brown started something he should be ashamed(in death) of starting. I guess the Mike Brown suppporters feel like something different happened to what was being told by Wilson based on other sources like the video of the guy who was talking to the officer right after the shooting.

 

So on the racial side of things it's basically

 

Black people = "Typical white people always killing and doing horrible things to other races and then trying to act innocent and lieing about it"

 

And

 

White people = "Typical black people always thinking that somebody is out to get them while ignoring the facts of what really happened and overreacting for nothing"

 

So who is right? Who do we believe? Unfortunately, there was nobody around to record the whole incident to know. The only thing we can really do is listen to the individuals who saw it all and thats Wilson and Mike Brown. Being that Brown isn't with us, we can only really listen to what Wilson say's.

 

Now even if Wilson killed Brown in an unneccessary manner, he would honestly be the idiot of the universe to admit to it lol. But going by everything we know, it looks like Mike Brown was the one that was in the wrong. I dont know if that's factual that Mike Brown charged at the officer when he approached his car but if he did then HE is the idiot of the universe.

 

On Wilsons part, I hope that he's telling the truth so I can know that he didn't kill Mike Brown in an unjust way. On Mike Brown's part.. being that he's already gone, I hope that the officer is lieing and that Mike didn't try to pull some dumb shit like that(rushing at the officer, trying to grab his gun, etc). 

 

If he really did pull this dumb shit, I would love to have a chat with him on the other side. I hope he see's every bit of what's happening because of him. I would love to say "look what your decisions have done. You got yourself killed because you didn't want to go to jail for robbing a store. Look what you have your black people out here doing. They're rioting because they think you died an unjust death when you possibly brought it upon yourself. They're out here rioting for what? an individual who was ridiculously in the wrong? And the officer has to deal with all this shit because of your poor decisions."

 

.. but who knows.

 

The never-ending racial spiral continues..