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Preach it Mzuzek.

Preach!

EDIT:

Well, you can both preach. Both games appear (much) higher on my list. But you'd probably never know that I'm a fan...



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mZuzek said:
artur-fernand said:

You're clearly delusional, Sonic 3 & Knuckles is far better. I did have fun with Sonic 2, but only until Metropolis Zone. From there, the game just NOSEDIVED for me. Fuck Wing Fortress Zone as well.

Well I don't know about that. I did play a bit of Sonic & Knuckles back in the day and loved it, but couldn't get to play more because I didn't actually own it. I've tried playing both it and Sonic 3 more recently and just couldn't enjoy them, I might try them out later.

Also, Wing Fortress might have been somewhat annoying but it was one hell of an awesome level all things considered. I loved how the game changed near the end, though I have to say the oil zone (forgot the name, damn) was very annoying and I hated how endless Metropolis felt. Still a great experience, though.


Playing Sonic 3 and then Sonic & Knuckles separate may not be that great. I'm talking about playing them locked-on, as was originally envisioned. And I didn't mind Metropolis' length (Sandopolis in Sonic 3 is bigger actually), I'm talking about the bullshit enemy/enemy placement there. Blargh.

But can we both agree that Sonic 1 is kinda meh nowadays though...?



mZuzek said:

I don't know. Sonic 1 would be kinda meh but Scrap Brain Zone is too good to ignore. The third and fifth one (god I'm struggling with these names today) can go rot in hell though. Also the boss in Labyrinth was insane, and not necessarily in a good way.

But yeah, Metropolis sucked - I wouldn't mind it being endless if it wasn't in a very annoying way.


What pissed me off is that it begins with Green Hill Zone, you know, a fast and fluid stage to get things moving.

Then it throws Marble Zone, Spring Yard and LABYRINTH FUCKING ZONE at you. Looking back, Sonic 1 really lacks in the "speed" department, it was more of a marketing tactic (BLAST PROCESSING). Add in some dickish enemy placement (if you go really fast, you WILL run into something), and bleh.

And the lack of the spin dash makes me die a little.



2Quick said:
KLXVER said:
#30 - Mega Man Battle Network. Great game

#29 hint - The 360 started with the first. The PS3 started with the second. The WiiU started with the third.


Mass Effect!


Indeed



artur-fernand said:

#30: Pokémon LeafGreen/FireRed (Game Freak, 2004) - GBA

 

The Pokemon game I've played the most in my life was Pokemon Silver: over 100 hundred hours, and the Pokedex was technically complete (missing just some Gen 1 and Gold Pokemons). And while I still love that game, it's this one that I find the most fun. I'll fully admit it, I think it's the nostalgia factor. While I still have fun with the series, I'm mostly indifferent towards it today - the series could die tomorrow for all I care. I find 700+ creatures to be incredibly overwhelming, but here, I just have to deal with a little over a hundred. And, thanks to the cartoon and the Pokemon OBSESSION every kid/teenager had at the time, I know all their names and types (the same is true for Gen 2, but after playing SoulSilver I realized the Pokemon "distribution" there is kinda lame). Like I said, I had fun with Emerald and Platinum, but seeing "Trainer is about to send X!", knowing who X is and what I should use to defeat it just increases my enjoyment.

tl;dr: I prefer Gen 1 because I'm most familiar with it, and Pokemon distribution makes sense, unlike Gen 2.

 

#29: A dead man and an imaginary person. Great group.

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#29 - My wife and I love Tomb Raider, and this is the first time we were able to co-op. It gets high scores just for that, but is an excellent game anyway.

Eagerly awaiting next week and The Temple of Osiris - just in time to provide us with some entertainment when most of our shows take a Christmas break... It will be our first co-op game on PS4, time to unpack the second controller.



Once more I have fallen behind on my list, here goes;

Number 32: GTA: San Andreas (Rockstar, PS2).

I remember waiting for this to arrive in the mail, I had it pre-ordered and the GTA series seems to be the only long-running series that I have craved on day one for each installment, all the way from the very first one published by BMG/Take-Two.
Not knowing what to expect after the 90's New York setting in GTA 3 and the fantastic 80's Miami vibe from Vice City; I was in for a shock when I played this title. It managed to become the best GTA game of them all, the sheer size, variety and scope of it all was beyond anything else in the series and the charactes and voice-acting were amazing.
The writing is sharp and the gameplay is fantastic and holds so many different concepts and possibilities out to you, it is damn near impossible to get tired of this game and its cast.
Easily the best GTA for me, and easily deserving of a spot on my top 50 list.

Number 31: Far Cry (Crytek, PC).

This was a real sleeper hit from a small name in the industry at the time; who would have thought that they could present such a fresh and exciting concept to the somewhat stale FPS genre? Far Cry properly introduced an open world setting paired with open-ended gameplay and was notoriously difficult at some points, actually causing the player to reconsider going into combat to begin with, the story was a non-factor, but the gameplay was the star of the show. The weapons were heavy and cumbersome like they should be, ammo was scarce (mission where you're dropped out of a helicopter with only a revolver and a few bullets, in the middle of a jungle infested with deadly enemies is unforgetable) and the enemies were tough.
The visuals were amazing and it was very ambitious of Crytek to choose a setting with so much brush, trees and detailed nature, this was highly daring in an FPS title but the game ran smoothly as Barry White on a buttered mirror across slick ice in heavy backwinds, which makes it a comical display (literally) to see Crytek's later efforts which were widely (and factually) regarded as some of the most poorly optimized bullsit ever released.
This game reminds me of what Crytek once was, and that makes me thankful for the game itself but sad when seeing what they have become.

Number 30: Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines (Troika Games, PC).

Another hallmark title made with the versatile Source engine and a fantastic and thoroughbred RPG which remains true and on-point with the source material. Based off of Anne Rice's hugely involving vampire universe, this game lets you create and control a denizen of the nigth; a true vampire, no glittering in the sun, no sulking high-school crushes and no spending more time with a comb and hairgel than actual rampaging and skulking.
The game features several fantastic NPC's and the interaction is intense and grounded, the dialogue is sharp and to the point and the visual undertones and detail to eyes, faces and contrasts in light and shadow creates an oppressing but simultaneously inviting atmosphere; you almost don't want to know what lurks behind the corner as much as you want to.
The werewolf encounter still sits in my memory as one of the biggest "OF FUCK!" moments in my long and broad gaming experience.
Troika games, sadly, had to shut down shortly after this release but a helpful modding community has helped keep the title alive and well and if you can get past the unorthodox gameplay and interfaces and a couple of quirks, as well as a somewhat unstable difficulty curve; there's a real gem to be enjoyed here!

Hint for number 29:

The developers behind this are already featured on my list, this title was a spiritual successor to a much lesser known title by the same studios and is considered a highlight in the 7th gen, in particular noted for its grit and emotional story.




Hint for 28
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#29 - Mass Effect. Best in the series imo

#28 hint - Probably the most influential FPS of the 7th gen.



KLXVER said:

#29 - Mass Effect. Best in the series imo

#28 hint - Probably the most influential FPS of the 7th gen.

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare?