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Forums - Sales Discussion - Destiny caused 500k+ returns of PS4.

BreedinBull on 05 November 2014

Haha, and here I am thinking it was becuase VGC didn't track "digital console sales" :P



Thanks jlmurph!

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DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
prinz_valium said:
okay because all u guys dont know i will tell u:

sony ps4 shipments end of june 10.2m
sony ps4 sold through 12th august 10m
sony ps4 shipments end of september 13.5

so after 10.2m shipped ps4, it took sony 1 1/2 month to sold through the same number
my best guess is 13.5m sold through ps4 the week before gtaV/far cry/lpb3 realse


its normal to have 1 1/2 month of sales sitting on shelfs, at distributors and in transit


Man you should really start respecting people with longer story here. They may know a lot more than you on the tracking... don't forget your completly out of reality.

VGC have PS4 250k undertracked for 10M announcement. And have just been extra underput 200k just this week, plus some estimated 150k undertracked in the period.

But you can keep underestimating PS4 as you like to do.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
BreedinBull said:
Haha, and here I am thinking it was becuase VGC didn't track "digital console sales" :P


Digital console (well PSNow is kind of it) can't be returned so they aren't considered in this thread.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ssenkahdavic on 05 November 2014
DonFerrari said:

As we all know PS4 had announced 10M sales some months away and going by the weekly sales, NPD and other trackers PS4 should show at least 12M for September 30th (13.5M shipped) but it is actually showing 11.4M.

The real reason was hidden from most for quite some time, but I used my investigation skills and discovered what happened. Several customers have been reported to return their PS4 Destiny bundle out of disapointment, we have several threads in here attesting that and they never lied.

So there it is, mistery solved. 600k customers returned their PS4 because of Destiny disapointment. THE BOMBA. VGC is tracking 100% perfectly, no cry of undertracked will be allowed until all the 600k returned PS4 get rebought.


You might be right.   Hmm I bet they all traded them in for vitas to use with remoteplay.  I mean...they were dumb enough to fall for the hypes. 



 

  

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DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
Ssenkahdavic said:
DonFerrari said:

As we all know PS4 had announced 10M sales some months away and going by the weekly sales, NPD and other trackers PS4 should show at least 12M for September 30th (13.5M shipped) but it is actually showing 11.4M.

The real reason was hidden from most for quite some time, but I used my investigation skills and discovered what happened. Several customers have been reported to return their PS4 Destiny bundle out of disapointment, we have several threads in here attesting that and they never lied.

So there it is, mistery solved. 600k customers returned their PS4 because of Destiny disapointment. THE BOMBA. VGC is tracking 100% perfectly, no cry of undertracked will be allowed until all the 600k returned PS4 get rebought.


You might be right.   Hmm I bet they all traded them in for vitas to use with remoteplay.  I mean...they were dumb enough to fall for the hypes. 

Would be funny to trade Destiny bundle for a Vita (undertracked by 600k them? I like it) expecting yo use remote play and forgeting you need a PS4 for it, and I don't put it above dumb customers to do it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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riecsou on 05 November 2014

Lol @ the people taking this thread too seriously. Thanks for the laugh OP



DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
riecsou said:
Lol @ the people taking this thread too seriously. Thanks for the laugh OP


I even got offended to post this through analysis... Maybe if I added that all returns were made globally in USA people would take me more seriously.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

ironmanDX on 05 November 2014

Yeah. I was so disappointed, I traded in my xbox one with Destiny and bought a new xbox one as to make sure no destiny files remained in the HDD...

Clever or what?



prinz_valium on 05 November 2014
DonFerrari said:
prinz_valium said:
okay because all u guys dont know i will tell u:

sony ps4 shipments end of june 10.2m
sony ps4 sold through 12th august 10m
sony ps4 shipments end of september 13.5

so after 10.2m shipped ps4, it took sony 1 1/2 month to sold through the same number
my best guess is 13.5m sold through ps4 the week before gtaV/far cry/lpb3 realse


its normal to have 1 1/2 month of sales sitting on shelfs, at distributors and in transit


Man you should really start respecting people with longer story here. They may know a lot more than you on the tracking... don't forget your completly out of reality.

VGC have PS4 250k undertracked for 10M announcement. And have just been extra underput 200k just this week, plus some estimated 150k undertracked in the period.

But you can keep underestimating PS4 as you like to do.

what is wrong with u?
all beside my last guess are official sony figures. u want to denie them?

stop overestimating urself and ur knowledge of anything sales and distribution related


and i do not defend any vgc numbers here. ur just cherrypicking. ps4 is still overtracked 95k end of september in the us. so who cares if it is undertracked 200k on the 10m announcement. thats just within the normal range of error. come back if its 500k - 1m of under-/overtracking



Imaginedvl on 05 November 2014
DonFerrari said:
celador said:
Yep, and they all went to X1, hence the undertracking


But ioi must decide how they will count the changes from PS4 to X1 (actually I think several people would gladly change Destiny PS4 or X1 for Halo MCC bundle if they could).

If only this white MMC bundle was available in North America! if only...