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Forums - Sales Discussion - Destiny caused 500k+ returns of PS4.

Nem on 06 November 2014

Dont believe that for a second. Dunno about the US, but in EU you cant return things to the shop unless they are broken.



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DonFerrari on 06 November 2014
bigjon said:
DonFerrari said:
qwertyDANIELqwerty said:
I am actually laughing about this. It's why you don't buy into the hype of a game, unless you know it'll be good.


The trailler and folks at Bungie warrented me the game was fantastic.


I honestly think qwertyDANIELqwerty took your OP serious.... sad.....

Some people need disclaimers.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 06 November 2014
Nem said:
Dont believe that for a second. Dunno about the US, but in EU you cant return things to the shop unless they are broken.


Haven't you saw the many claims that destiny is a broken game and the fw 2.0 bricked consoles?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 06 November 2014
manuelogando40 said:

Do you really believe what you're saying?

Not make any sense.

Sorry dude, but I think this post is written solely from the rancor seeing good sales ps4.

Why not write links which have seen the return of the ps4 + destiny packs?


You got me. I hate the sales of ps4.

Just use google or VGC search for all the massive return reports



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nem on 06 November 2014
DonFerrari said:
Nem said:
Dont believe that for a second. Dunno about the US, but in EU you cant return things to the shop unless they are broken.


Haven't you saw the many claims that destiny is a broken game and the fw 2.0 bricked consoles?


Destiny does not give you a refund in europe. Bricked console does, but i'm sure those are just a minority of cases or it would've blown all over RRoD style. 500-600k? No way. 10k at best, probably much less.



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DonFerrari on 06 November 2014
JustBeingReal said:
DonFerrari said:
JustBeingReal said:
I take it this is meant to be a joke Destiny released on the 9th of September, Sony's shipment figures of 13.5M go right up to the end of that same month, if retailers had 600k returns they wouldn't have ordered 3.3M over that quarter, they would have ordered 2.7M and Sony would have announced 12.9M consoles shipped.

We have two hypothesis.

First is that the returned units were repacked and Sony counted as new shipments buffing the numbers. I know there are similar claims regarding x360 shipments and rrod warranty/repairs.

Or the systems were so tarnished by destiny that they had to be burn so new systems had to be shipped (no warranty for burnt units so the sales count for shipments).

A company cannot call stock something it's not, especially on an official income statement (which is how Sony announced this). A unit produced is a unit produced. A unit that is returned would have to be counted as returned stock, it goes down as a minus on any company stock levels, it's the same with Microsoft and the RROD, the faulty units were returned back to Microsoft, they can't be counted twice, maybe there's a margin for Human error, but to say 600k units basically come out of thin air would be easy to spot and the company would be commiting fraud and they'd have to pay for that, it would also be terrible from a customer relations POV as no one would buy from them, because you couldn't trust their actions.

 

As for Destiny you realize the game's got more positive feedback than negative right?

Even the worse game in history never tarnished a whole games system, let alone that amount of sales.

All of this is reaching to the highest degree and the simplest, most logical answer to all of this is that VGChartz are undertracking the numbers, which is respectfully correct because Sony's numbers say otherwise, on an official income statement, not even some random marketing announcement.

 

What actual proof do you have to support this speculation?


Explain that to ioi or errow. Sony even had lied about smartphone to be shipped this quarter why wouldn't they lie about ps4?

for proof look for the return reports and VGC numbers that were accepted as legit globally in USA.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

JazzB1987 on 06 November 2014
qwertyDANIELqwerty said:
I am actually laughing about this. It's why you don't buy into the hype of a game, unless you know it'll be good.


well may I introduce humanity to you?






DonFerrari on 06 November 2014
Nem said:
DonFerrari said:
Nem said:
Dont believe that for a second. Dunno about the US, but in EU you cant return things to the shop unless they are broken.


Haven't you saw the many claims that destiny is a broken game and the fw 2.0 bricked consoles?


Destiny does not give you a refund in europe. Bricked console does, but i'm sure those are just a minority of cases or it would've blown all over RRoD style. 500-600k? No way. 10k at best, probably much less.


Ps4 is overtracked in USA according to unreliable NPD so WW it could be even worse so VGC 11.3M is a best case scenario. And from all the fw 2.0 frozen console reports last week I wouldn't be surprised by this many bricked consoles.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nem on 06 November 2014
DonFerrari said:
Nem said:
DonFerrari said:


Destiny does not give you a refund in europe. Bricked console does, but i'm sure those are just a minority of cases or it would've blown all over RRoD style. 500-600k? No way. 10k at best, probably much less.


Ps4 is overtracked in USA according to unreliable NPD so WW it could be even worse so VGC 11.3M is a best case scenario. And from all the fw 2.0 frozen console reports last week I wouldn't be surprised by this many bricked consoles.


Believe me, if the numbers were that high there would be rivers of people complaining online. I hardly see any.



naruball on 06 November 2014

Just like with Seece's thread, not sure what's funnier, the original post or the people completely failing at detecting sarcasm.
At this point I'm convinced that some people's sarcasm meter is completely broken.