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pepharytheworm said:
bugrimmar said:
Ah, it's about feminism?

Then I'm obviously pro-gg then. Feminism is garbage, especially these fools trying to apply it to gaming.


What part of equal rights between the sexes is garbage?

Equal rights means equal, not destroying everything the other side enjoys.  Gaze theory has evolved since 1975.  If anything, everyone should be egalitarian.  There are very likely feminists in the Anti side who desire that approach.  But the loudest, are undoubtedly attempting to go far beyond equal rights, every bit as much, as the misogynists they villify.



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Beside the obvious, and that is trying to expose corruption in gaming media, I see most benefit from things like managing to convince Intel to pull their ads from Gamasutra and similar actions.

These sites that are so easily offending large part of their readership and people who they are supposedly writing for will eventually learn the simple truth - you don't fuck and insult consumers to push your personal agendas.

In its essence Gamergate is consumer movement, for anyone who does not understand this I suggest watching one of Totalbiscuit's interviews.

Another good thing that came out of it is #notyourshield, that has shown how many people that are not "white male misogynist nerds", as anti-GG movement and their media lapdogs like to characterize GG, will stand up against bullshit.



pepharytheworm said:

You do realize that when there is imbalance you need to add more weight to the lighter side first to bring back balance. Why would someone trying to acheive balance add weight to both sides? All that would do is just add more weight but the balance would still be off. If there are two hungry individuals and you have a loaf of bread to give them, one already has a loaf of bread how would you distribute the bread? I consider myself a feminist and I am male so what am I an oxymoron? Do I advocate my own downfall and subjecation?

Anyway his post said feminism is garbage not that feminist organizations are garbage. Feminism discribes an ideal or movement not a predetermined set of steps to acheive such goals but certain organizatons do that and that is where the disagreement usually lies with most people. Attacking feminism as a whole is a fallacy. 


Two wrongs don't make a right... You don't make the world a better place by drawing war lines. Peace isn't made by making bigger bombs (okay, maybe Mutually Assured Destruction is a thing, but that doesn't make it an ideal). Modern feminism, as it is most often propagated, is bullshit...

So why be a feminist when you can be an egalitarian? Why not try to make the world better for everyone? Feminists often operate by making human issues into women's issues: harrassment? women's issue. bullying? women's issue. idealization by the media? women's issue. These are all just issues, no need to throw men by the wayside to make the world a better place. 

PS: GamerGate is in no way anti women or any other group of people. There is a huge difference between being anti-SJW/Feminism and being anti-woman. #NotYourShield is a pretty good example of the inclusivity of GamerGate...



#______Gate things are always stupid in the first place. I'm glad I gathered some information about this GamerGate thing in this thread, but truthfully, I knew it would be sad people quibbling away about sad/stupid things.



*sigh*



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GamerGate is a fuckin' joke. Period.

If you need to ask why, then you haven't been paying attention.



DevilRising said:
GamerGate is a fuckin' joke. Period.

If you need to ask why, then you haven't been paying attention.

Might be a joke to you, but I don't think Gamasutra or Gawker are laughing.



The vast majority of "gamers" don't give a shit one way or the other about Gamergate, so no.

Even at that, the tribal "enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality doesn't work very well in practice.



sundin13 said:
pepharytheworm said:

You do realize that when there is imbalance you need to add more weight to the lighter side first to bring back balance. Why would someone trying to acheive balance add weight to both sides? All that would do is just add more weight but the balance would still be off. If there are two hungry individuals and you have a loaf of bread to give them, one already has a loaf of bread how would you distribute the bread? I consider myself a feminist and I am male so what am I an oxymoron? Do I advocate my own downfall and subjecation?

Anyway his post said feminism is garbage not that feminist organizations are garbage. Feminism discribes an ideal or movement not a predetermined set of steps to acheive such goals but certain organizatons do that and that is where the disagreement usually lies with most people. Attacking feminism as a whole is a fallacy. 


Two wrongs don't make a right... You don't make the world a better place by drawing war lines. Peace isn't made by making bigger bombs (okay, maybe Mutually Assured Destruction is a thing, but that doesn't make it an ideal). Modern feminism, as it is most often propagated, is bullshit...

So why be a feminist when you can be an egalitarian? Why not try to make the world better for everyone? Feminists often operate by making human issues into women's issues: harrassment? women's issue. bullying? women's issue. idealization by the media? women's issue. These are all just issues, no need to throw men by the wayside to make the world a better place. 

PS: GamerGate is in no way anti women or any other group of people. There is a huge difference between being anti-SJW/Feminism and being anti-woman. #NotYourShield is a pretty good example of the inclusivity of GamerGate...

Who said I wasn't egalitarian? Feminism doesn't cancel out egalitarianism.



Gamergate has nothing to do with stomping console wars. It has everything to do with corruption in journalism and its lost its way so badly that Anita Sarkeesian is making an even greater name for herself because of the extremists.