^ I mentioned Bioshock because he said he liked story it has a very good story. He said he was going to pick up Gears of War.
"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.
kingofwale said: LO is not worth picking up a console for.
But hey, it's your money, do whatever you please.
Have you even played Lost Odyssey? It's an underrated game.
does the game worth 400 dollars? No? Then it's not worth picking up a console for. That's all I'm saying.
What game is worth 400 or 600 dollars? What you are saying is you've never played it but you are sure of it's value? What game is worth the 600 dollars that you paid for your PS3? Isn't it a combination of games or the prospect of something from the future?
THAT'S MY POINT! no game is worth picking up a console for. If he's only interested in one game. then don't pick up a console.
Let go your Microsoft goggles and see the reasoning please.
For the 360, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Viva Pinata, Gears of War and Gears of War 2 are pretty much guaranteed pickups. There are a few others I may buy/rent in the future.
As pointed out in this thread, 360 does have the best RPG lineup right now and that has always been what decides whether or not I buy a console.
I agree with kingofwale. If he's just going to buy a console for one game, then it's not worth it.
@ Euphoria, If your looking forward to those games, then I suggest you buy it. I have a feeling the 360 might have a price drop, so it's your choice if you want it now or wait. The 360 will get more JRPGs like Infinite Undiscovery or something, The Last Remnant, and a possible Lost Odyssey sequel (I read an interview about the creator teasing it).
kingofwale said: LO is not worth picking up a console for.
But hey, it's your money, do whatever you please.
Have you even played Lost Odyssey? It's an underrated game.
does the game worth 400 dollars? No? Then it's not worth picking up a console for. That's all I'm saying.
What game is worth 400 or 600 dollars? What you are saying is you've never played it but you are sure of it's value? What game is worth the 600 dollars that you paid for your PS3? Isn't it a combination of games or the prospect of something from the future?
THAT'S MY POINT! no game is worth picking up a console for. If he's only interested in one game. then don't pick up a console.
Let go your Microsoft goggles and see the reasoning please.
Microsoft goggles? I am actually on Team Nintendo. I will probably pick up a PS3 as well later this year to complete my collection. So the advice I am giving is less biased than yours, as I can see value in all systems.
mrstickball said: But why are you giving advice for a console you don't own?
I OWN a X360 FOR THE RPGs. I am in the same catagory of gamer as he is. I despise FPS games, and picked up a 360 for RPGs. You don't own a X360, king, you own a PS3. Your going to say "don't pick up a X360 for one game" because you don't know the library - I do! It'd be like me saying that the PS3 only has one good game (Uncharted). I'd think that because I don't own a PS3, therefore have no real reason to provide guidance on that system. But I own a X360, love JRPGs, and feel that I *might* be able to say that if he wants LO, and his GF want VP, there are more than enough other big games on the X360 to warrant a purchase.
because the user asks if he should buy the console or not, NOT what games he should buy. Why do you have to own the console in the first place?
Besides, he has a pretty good idea about all the library games anyway.
I love how people would automatically recommend the system they own to an user who might or might not even enjoy it (base on his taste of games).
In fact, if he asked if he should pick up a PS3 for FFXIII alone, I'd say no. I'm here to give advice, not trying to sell him my console.
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3D Dot Game Heroes takes place in the peaceful Kingdom of Dotnia, a world not unlike a 2D 16-bit era sprite-based RPG.
Long ago, the Kingdom was protected by six wise men and six orbs which contained the power of God. However, the Devil Demon Onikis, seeking their power, stole the orbs and captured the wise men. Demons began to flood the Kingdom, whose end was thought to be near.
It was at that time that a young warrior appeared from seemingly nowhere, saved the wise men and returned the orbs to their rightful place. Following a great battle, the warrior and the wise men combined the orbs into one and sealed Onikis away.
The Kingdom prospered for some time after that. However, as time passed, the story of the young warrior became a legend and visitors stopped coming to the Kingdom. It was then that the King made the decision: "From now on, it will be the 3D era." Under orders from the King, the Kingdom was changed from 2D to 3D, and began progressing towards a restoration of past grandeur. Just as people began to get used to their new life however, something happened.
You play as a descendant of the hero who saved the Kingdom and are now tasked with saving the world, as the orbs have gone missing...
Other characters in the game include Princess Iris, a highly friendly princess who's become lost, King Dottonia, a sensible and good-natured king who transformed the Kingdom and the Priest of Darkness, the official priest of the Kingdom who's been possessed by evil and has hidden the orbs that sealed away Onikis.
Apart from it’s unique visual style - the game is promised to be a lengthy experience for up to 20 - 30 hours excluding the hidden and optional stuff which can lead up to 40-50 hours of gameplay.
The game will let you control swappable characters - a Hero and a Prince or a female Hero and a Princess along with a Traveling Scholar, who is also of male or female variety. Also amongst these three, the Ancient Warrior, who you begin the game with as you need to bring the sword to the Holy Forest to the north of the castle and place it there for future generations. You can swap between these characters and when you do so you get to keep all your items and parameters and apparently there appears to be some differences between the character types, with some being better with swords and others with magic, so there is the chance that character changes will play into the game. Along with all of this, you seem to get a spunky little fairy companion, at first this fairy will serve as a guide for the game's tutorial, although, in the main menu there are slots for multiple fairies, outside of just this initial one. This presumably means that the fairies do more than just serve as a tutorial for the game.
Now to the game's combat system. You press circle to swing your sword, X to use your sub weapon (including, a boomerang, bomb, and bow and arrow), hold square to dash and use R1 to raise your shield. It's possible to make your character do a rotating slash as well. When you attack with your sword you can direct your slash with the D-Pad or analog stick (depending on which your controlling your character with). This allows you to take out surrounding enemies. Initial impressions say that the combat system seems to be more skill based than your typical RPG.
Also note that as the hero progresses, he'll be able to use "Shader Magic". Shader Magic spells have rendering-themed names like Parallax Map, Reflection, Normal Map and Frozen Shader. You'll have to use these both to combat enemies and as a means of solving puzzles.
You can also lock your character into facing one direction, allowing you to strafe around and block incoming attacks with your shield. The game also lets you cycle through subweapons and magic quickly, without going into the main menu, allowing you to easily switch off between boomerangs to stun enemies, bombs to blast holes in walls, and arrows to strike at distant foes.
The 3D Dot Game Heroes' world, known as Dotnia Kingdom, is shown on the game's World Map below.
The locations highlighted on the map are: Poleto Forest, Arudo Wasteland, Sadoran Cemetary, Lajak Village, Cornelia Village, Dark Tower, Batalua Field, Gilga Beach, Kai Crater, Visclo Volcano and Nuntora Desert.
There are also four different view modes for this title, as showcased below. My personal favorite is the 3/4 top down view.
Outside of the main menu, there's a system menu. This lets you save (at any time), load, view your photo album, take a picture of the current scene, and change the camera angle (As seen above).
Regarding the photo mode, one option you have is to switch the game into a first person viewing mode. Here, you can move the camera freely around the world. It's like an FPS, except your character doesn't move. This is presumably designed to allow you to put your character in your shots.
You can choose to toggle an option for "grid." When set to on, the blocks that make up the game world and its characters are marked with clear borders. When off, the world appears to flow together.
The game also has a large font option, which should make reading that pixely 8-bit text a bit easier.
This game also features a very powerful character editor feature.
You can create your very own main character using a block level editor with maximum dimensions of 16 x 16 x 16. In addition to creating your character from scratch, you can use one of the preset character classes as a base.
In the above edit screen shot, the controls are listed as follows:
L2/R2: Change pose
L1/R1: Bring up the menu
D-pad: Move the pointer
Circle: place a block
X: I think this lets you clear a block
L: move camera/rotate
R: Zoom in/out
Circle + D-pad: Change pointer size
R2 + D-pad: Move blocks
SELECT: Clear all
At the top, you can select a pose for your creation: standing, walk 1, walk 2, "banzai," and sword out.
You're not limited to the presets in the palette. Pressing square lets you adjust the colors.
3D Dot Game... Rorona?
What's interesting about character creation is not only that you can create anything you want, like Link, but if you want to share it, you can export the character onto whatever form of portable memory (USB stick, Memory Stick Pro Duo) and extract it onto another PlayStation3!.
3D Dot Game... Zelda!!
You can also customize your character's weapon as you progress. Gold that you earn from defeating enemies can be used at the town's blacksmith to customize your weapon in seven areas, including length, size, attack strength, long distance attack strength, rotation degree, and piercing strength.
The result of extended customization is some ridiculously large weapons:
Worth noting is that your weapon is only in it's ridiculously large size when your hero's health meter is at full strength. Anything less than that will result in your weapon being at default size.
Remember how From Software announced that Irem's Spelunker character would be used to promote the game? If you didn't, well now you do. In addition to his promotional activities, Spelunker will appear in the game in playable form. Once you've helped him out in the main quest, you'll be able to use Spelunker in the extremely difficult Spelunker Mode, where you can end up dying after even the smallest of falls.
Also amongst the Spelunker mode From Software has announced the following (2) minigame modes in 3D Dot Game Heroes.
Dash Race
Use your character's dash move to race through a course. Get the fastest time and you'll earn rewards.
Block DefenseA 3D Dot Game Heroes twist on Tower Defense. You position blocks of such form as "Arrow Block", "Air Block", "Missile Block", and "Fire Block". These blocks attack incoming enemies formations. It seems like you can also lend a helping hand and directly attack the enemy.
The game will also feature a very difficult mode called "From Mode". This becomes selectable once you've cleared certain unspecified conditions in the game's standard difficulty mode. Also note that characters in the game will be conscious about the tougher mode of play, and some will praise you for your bravery.
I am considering getting a 360, but the more I think about it, by the summer, the PS3 will have a much more complete library. While I would like ME, AC 6, GeoW 1/2, LO... the list ends there. I would probably pick up Fable, but I don't have enough money to be able to get all the games for two systems, and would much prefer to have a better PS3 collection.
OT: as you are a Sony fan, the multiplatform games you get are likely to be on PS3, as you like the controller. So, the games for 360 that you want to be looking at are merely the exclusives, just see how many you would actually buy, then think whether or not you want to get the console I am happy waiting for the games to come, but if you do love RPGs, the best thing to would borrow the console or something, cause LO is not revolutionary enough to justify several hundred dollars, and you could just get a PSP with CC FF VII for much less if you really want an RPG
mrstickball said: But why are you giving advice for a console you don't own?
I OWN a X360 FOR THE RPGs. I am in the same catagory of gamer as he is. I despise FPS games, and picked up a 360 for RPGs. You don't own a X360, king, you own a PS3. Your going to say "don't pick up a X360 for one game" because you don't know the library - I do! It'd be like me saying that the PS3 only has one good game (Uncharted). I'd think that because I don't own a PS3, therefore have no real reason to provide guidance on that system. But I own a X360, love JRPGs, and feel that I *might* be able to say that if he wants LO, and his GF want VP, there are more than enough other big games on the X360 to warrant a purchase.
because the user asks if he should buy the console or not, NOT what games he should buy. Why do you have to own the console in the first place?
Besides, he has a pretty good idea about all the library games anyway.
I love how people would automatically recommend the system they own to an user who might or might not even enjoy it (base on his taste of games).
In fact, if he asked if he should pick up a PS3 for FFXIII alone, I'd say no. I'm here to give advice, not trying to sell him my console.
There are 2 games that I would consider to be system sellers. FF13 and SSBB.
IMunkeh111 said: I am considering getting a 360, but the more I think about it, by the summer, the PS3 will have a much more complete library. While I would like ME, AC 6, GeoW 1/2, LO... the list ends there. I would probably pick up Fable, but I don't have enough money to be able to get all the games for two systems, and would much prefer to have a better PS3 collection.
OT: as you are a Sony fan, the multiplatform games you get are likely to be on PS3, as you like the controller. So, the games for 360 that you want to be looking at are merely the exclusives, just see how many you would actually buy, then think whether or not you want to get the console I am happy waiting for the games to come, but if you do love RPGs, the best thing to would borrow the console or something, cause LO is not revolutionary enough to justify several hundred dollars, and you could just get a PSP with CC FF VII for much less if you really want an RPG
I already own a PS3, so I will have that library anyways. I own a Wii as well, although too lazy for 2 months now to print out the Fed-Ex label to get it repaired, lol. Crisis Core is already a purchase for me, as is Disgaea 3.
I just believe the 360 has some very noteworthy RPG's (BlueDragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata) at this point where as an RPG fan, it makes no sense to ignore them. I just want to play these games instead of letting them pass me by, I regretted this mistake once I played Final Fantasy VI on my PC with ZSnes. I was always like "Genesis is better!".
Well... Final Fantasy VI is my favorite game all time. I didn't play it until almost 10 years after it was released.
iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.
Currently playing:
Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)
My gosh he just wanted some advice. Not some sony's the greatest your a trader for thinking about X-box logic.
"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.
IMunkeh111 said: I am considering getting a 360, but the more I think about it, by the summer, the PS3 will have a much more complete library. While I would like ME, AC 6, GeoW 1/2, LO... the list ends there. I would probably pick up Fable, but I don't have enough money to be able to get all the games for two systems, and would much prefer to have a better PS3 collection.
OT: as you are a Sony fan, the multiplatform games you get are likely to be on PS3, as you like the controller. So, the games for 360 that you want to be looking at are merely the exclusives, just see how many you would actually buy, then think whether or not you want to get the console I am happy waiting for the games to come, but if you do love RPGs, the best thing to would borrow the console or something, cause LO is not revolutionary enough to justify several hundred dollars, and you could just get a PSP with CC FF VII for much less if you really want an RPG
I already own a PS3, so I will have that library anyways. Crisis Core is already a purchase for me, as is Disgaea 3.
I just believe the 360 has some very noteworthy RPG's (BlueDragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata) at this point where as an RPG fan, it makes no sense to ignore them. I play the games, not the system.
My friend, who is also an RPG fan (and a PS360 Wii PSPDS owner), loves Lost Odyssey and Eternal Sonata, but hates blue Dragon, I don't know why. However, even with two, considering Eternal Sonata is coming to the PS3 with some extra content, I really don't see the console being worth it for two games