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this guy completely confuses 2 groups of people.

One is playing fresh fun new games. The other one is whining about resolution.

For years third party studios etc have made games for mainstreamers and tought them to only care about visuals because the rest is unimportant crap anyway. And now third party wonders why people just care about visuals (the PR visual stuff that is resolution etc.).

As long as the framerate is sufficuent for the type of game (e.g 20 would in theory be enough for a turn based RPG since there is no "action" that requires precision. Racing games, platformers and shooters should always be as high as possible) It is fine.

Shooters also do benfit from higher resolution so in that sence it would be smart to have a 1080p/4k with 60fps+ shooter that dials back on polycount/particles etc in favor of fps and resolution yet alot of modern games do the exact opposite Visual crap in favor of gameplay important stuff like FPS or in some cases resolution. (resolution = some cases because a e.g COD does not need such a high resolution as BF does   platformers also dont really need 1080p+ since nothing is so far away that 1080p/4k would give much of a benefit. FPS is always important tho)



I'll agree to what he is saying but it's only true when the products we are compairing are the same in doing something.

I don't agree in what's being said because these products are different and can do a better at the something it's doing.

I can do lots of things, like run a marathon excedra.. I'll have a simular experiance as the others running. Even though the entire time of the marathon it turns out that I never noticed my shoe was untied, my fly was down, shirt was inside out, sat in gum earier, and someone stuck a "kick me" sign on my back. It's the same experiance by not knowing.



I agree. Let us all make a deal of never talk about Resolution again.
Well, we finished this one early, it seems.
I am going to grab some capuccino, do you guys want anything?



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daredevil.shark said:
1. Agreed. Game matters. Not resolution.
2. I dont like parity. If a machine can do well why restrict it?

Agreed on both points.  Ultimately, the game is what matters.  But if I have a machine powerful enough to pump out better graphics, I sure as hell want it.  My more powerful PS4 should be able to look better at least in some way (resolution, FPS, shaders, etc) vs the XBone.  

Or more importantly, my PC games should be able to scale depending on the hardware I possess.  Shitty uncustomizable ports like Final Fantasy XIII and Dark Souls should not be happening.  From Software got their shit together on the second Dark Souls.  Final Fantasy XIII completely baffled me though.



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Ubisoft has gotten too stupid lately. They keep saying the same thing.



CladInShadows said:
daredevil.shark said:
1. Agreed. Game matters. Not resolution.
2. I dont like parity. If a machine can do well why restrict it?

Agreed on both points.  Ultimately, the game is what matters.  But if I have a machine powerful enough to pump out better graphics, I sure as hell want it.  My more powerful PS4 should be able to look better at least in some way (resolution, FPS, shaders, etc) vs the XBone.  

Or more importantly, my PC games should be able to scale depending on the hardware I possess.  Shitty uncustomizable ports like Final Fantasy XIII and Dark Souls should not be happening.  From Software got their shit together on the second Dark Souls.  Final Fantasy XIII completely baffled me though.


1. This is why I stopped my plan to upgrade my PC. I have no intention to play unoptimized games in overpriced system. Its unfair.

2. With game developers GPU manufacturers are also to blame. I know many people who updraged with GTX 780Ti and some SLI it. Now with GTX 970 / GTX 980 have made them obsolete. This is normal. But they are really fraustrated. Because this is happening too frequently in last few years. Nvidia / AMD have gone too greedy.



The debate was never about 1080p or not 1080p it's about optimising a game to it's full potential or going for parity.



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daredevil.shark said:
CladInShadows said:
daredevil.shark said:
1. Agreed. Game matters. Not resolution.
2. I dont like parity. If a machine can do well why restrict it?

Agreed on both points.  Ultimately, the game is what matters.  But if I have a machine powerful enough to pump out better graphics, I sure as hell want it.  My more powerful PS4 should be able to look better at least in some way (resolution, FPS, shaders, etc) vs the XBone.  

Or more importantly, my PC games should be able to scale depending on the hardware I possess.  Shitty uncustomizable ports like Final Fantasy XIII and Dark Souls should not be happening.  From Software got their shit together on the second Dark Souls.  Final Fantasy XIII completely baffled me though.


1. This is why I stopped my plan to upgrade my PC. I have no intention to play unoptimized games in overpriced system. Its unfair.

2. With game developers GPU manufacturers are also to blame. I know many people who updraged with GTX 780Ti and some SLI it. Now with GTX 970 / GTX 980 have made them obsolete. This is normal. But they are really fraustrated. Because this is happening too frequently in last few years. Nvidia / AMD have gone too greedy.

When I upgrade video cards, I always go with a couple steps down from top of the line.  Never the best. The performance hit I take is considerably less than the money I save, and I never feel like I'm getting ripped off every 3-4 years.



As an isolated case it's a non-starter. Nobody would give a shit. But if you, as a mainstream consumer, get told from all sides and all the time that most multiplats run better on PS4 it will affect your decision. Even if it was just a pixel difference. Better is better and that's what consumers will read and hear.



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