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Sharpryno said:
method114 said:
Azzanation said:
Well from what I believe, Xbox focused everything on the Xbox One launch which explains why it offered a greater AAA library then the PS4 and is still coming out with more games. After the XB1 launch, notice that the 360 is still getting games like Fable Anniversary, Titanfall, Forza Horizon 2 and many more while if you look at the PS3 I cant think of any exclusive AAA that has released for it apart from the upcoming LBP3.

I think its a smart move to focus on next gen then worrying about last gen, Imagine if TLOU was designed as a launch title for the PS4? The sooner we all move away from last gen the better. 9 years of a great console and people still complain that it doesn't get any support... lol honestly the console lasted freaking 9 years! and is still getting games in 2014.


They offered a better triple AAA experience in the begining and then they slowed to a halt after release. Titan Fall and that was it. While PS4 got Infamous,MLB,Last of us remake and all the indie titles that were being released at the same time.

Looking at upcoming games for PS4 and X1 you noticed a big difference with X1 getting one game a month and PS4 getting like 3-4.

As much as a I hate this fanboy thread, please don't say nonsense.

2014 was a horrible year for Sony in terms of exclusives. 

I'm not just talking about straight exclusives I'm talking about avaliable games on both systems. The PS4 was coming out with a lot more games it's not even an argument it's a fact. I'm not saying the PS4 dominated but they did really good with the end of the PS3 and then came back and did good with the PS4. That's what I want to see Xbox do. Support both don't abandon one and leave your customers in the dirt just cause you already got their money. Not to mention PS3 still getting exclusives after PS4 was already released games that I really want to play like the Tales game.



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method114 said:
Sharpryno said:
method114 said:
Azzanation said:
Well from what I believe, Xbox focused everything on the Xbox One launch which explains why it offered a greater AAA library then the PS4 and is still coming out with more games. After the XB1 launch, notice that the 360 is still getting games like Fable Anniversary, Titanfall, Forza Horizon 2 and many more while if you look at the PS3 I cant think of any exclusive AAA that has released for it apart from the upcoming LBP3.

I think its a smart move to focus on next gen then worrying about last gen, Imagine if TLOU was designed as a launch title for the PS4? The sooner we all move away from last gen the better. 9 years of a great console and people still complain that it doesn't get any support... lol honestly the console lasted freaking 9 years! and is still getting games in 2014.


They offered a better triple AAA experience in the begining and then they slowed to a halt after release. Titan Fall and that was it. While PS4 got Infamous,MLB,Last of us remake and all the indie titles that were being released at the same time.

Looking at upcoming games for PS4 and X1 you noticed a big difference with X1 getting one game a month and PS4 getting like 3-4.

As much as a I hate this fanboy thread, please don't say nonsense.

2014 was a horrible year for Sony in terms of exclusives. 

I'm not just talking about straight exclusives I'm talking about avaliable games on both systems. The PS4 was coming out with a lot more games it's not even an argument it's a fact. I'm not saying the PS4 dominated but they did really good with the end of the PS3 and then came back and did good with the PS4. That's what I want to see Xbox do. Support both don't abandon one and leave your customers in the dirt just cause you already got their money. Not to mention PS3 still getting exclusives after PS4 was already released games that I really want to play like the Tales game.

Do you really care about more games?  PC has more games than ps3, 360, ps4, ps3, wii, wii u combined five times over.  No one cares about that fact on PC, but its a huge ****ing deal when we compare XBO and PS4 for some reason. 

Which is why we tend to compare AAA titles.  A category the PS4 was horrible in this year.  A baseball game, a broken racing game, another LBP, and another Infamous that scored the worst in the franchise. 

Still amazes me that Titanfall is the best reviewed retail game between XBO and PS4 that released for the first time since next gen started. 



Goatseye said:
method114 said:
Azzanation said:
Well from what I believe, Xbox focused everything on the Xbox One launch which explains why it offered a greater AAA library then the PS4 and is still coming out with more games. After the XB1 launch, notice that the 360 is still getting games like Fable Anniversary, Titanfall, Forza Horizon 2 and many more while if you look at the PS3 I cant think of any exclusive AAA that has released for it apart from the upcoming LBP3.

I think its a smart move to focus on next gen then worrying about last gen, Imagine if TLOU was designed as a launch title for the PS4? The sooner we all move away from last gen the better. 9 years of a great console and people still complain that it doesn't get any support... lol honestly the console lasted freaking 9 years! and is still getting games in 2014.


They offered a better triple AAA experience in the begining and then they slowed to a halt after release. Titan Fall and that was it. While PS4 got Infamous,MLB,Last of us remake and all the indie titles that were being released at the same time.

Looking at upcoming games for PS4 and X1 you noticed a big difference with X1 getting one game a month and PS4 getting like 3-4.

How can you say Xbox didn't get nothing after Titanfall? Project Spark, Killer Instinct S2, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive and indie titles; coming soon: Halo MCC and Ori.

 

Everything you named just released this month. Which is awesome I was talking about April,may,june,july,august,september (got a game at the very end of the month). It would have been great if they could have spread those releases out.



method114 said:
Goatseye said:

How can you say Xbox didn't get nothing after Titanfall? Project Spark, Killer Instinct S2, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive and indie titles; coming soon: Halo MCC and Ori.

 

Everything you named just released this month. Which is awesome I was talking about April,may,june,july,august,september (got a game at the very end of the month). It would have been great if they could have spread those releases out.

KI was launched in September.

Anyway, why press for gamers fatigue and waste of reseources with monthly releases?

Most gamers on X1 haven't played Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Forza5, Max, etc...

I really don't understand gamers wish for a company to release games just for the sake of it. Third party are big players and their games should be taken in consideration.



Pemalite said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

shite is still shite regardless of who makes it.

Why should I give a flying fuck about MS's finacials every quarter as a gamer? Just because a decision is rational doesn't mean its beneficial to me as a consumer, I don't work for Microsoft, why should I care about how much money they make. Especially, when they can't even put that money into supporting a product I paid for.


There are benefits to having a more profitable company (verses one that looses cash) for the consumer.

For Instance... Microsoft can invest more in it's online infrustructure. (I bet you're wishing for THAT now since the PS4's release and you still have to pay for it!)
Microsoft are also throwing in Azure servers in Australia now.
I won't go into the peering arrangements Microsoft has done via Akami, which are bloody fantastic, resulting in lower latency and higher throughput.

And big franchises, like Minecraft. - 2.5 Billion dropped like it's nothing, if Microsoft plays that particular card right sometime in the future... There could be 10's of millions of children foaming at the mouth the world over that will be at the gates waiting to part with their parent's hard earned cash.

Converesly, if something catastrophic occurs, Microsoft has more financial backing to rectify it and support those customers affected. (I.E. RROD or the Great Sony hack.)

Sure a stable company is better for the consumer, but only if they actually do something with that stability.

Even this gen what have we actually seen instead of talked about.

XBL is slightly more reliable then PSN, basically has all the same features, but XBL goes down less often.

What exactly has been done with Minecraft yet?

Where be the Cloud, Family Share, no Microsoft wants to blame the lack of family share on Consumers, because the lack of always on in the One makes it impossible. The PS4 on the other hand, has PS Now and SharePlay and while they might have their limitations, Its really eyeopening that Sony can do this with a Gaikai aquision, while the only thing MS is talking about with Azure is #Dedicated Servers right now.

And MS sure did rectify RROD with temporary warranties, for like a year, but maybe if they didn't skimp out on solder, everyone could've saved a little money and time.

Right now, the benefits are in potential, but Microsoft has always had more potential then Sony, and that's all its been with them potential what they actually do is probably slightly more US centric then Sony who focuses on WW.

The issue is they don't use it. It shouldn't be a close race in the US, especially after the 360. It should've been dominance. Instead, they misinterpreted their own audience. They saw what happened with the Kinect yet they pushed the Kinect 2 even harder.  Now they're slashing prices to stay competitive.

 

Ultimately, from a consumer standpoint, potential does not matter at all, MS has benefits over Sony by virtue of being better off finacially, but it amounts to nothing, when they don't use it. They fight to compete, rather than exceed. Even despite the disparity of resources. When they said Xbox wasn't core they really meant to say Xbox is a second class citizen who we keep around because of taxes(XBL). Maybe when they treat it better that'll be better for consumers. "Games for Gold" good, "Ea Access" good, "Rotr TE" good, "SO, QB, TF" excellent, we need more of that, right now in the eyes of majority they are basically the same, with preferential differences swinging to one side or the other. And yet MS in all its wealth and health is just even with Sony a company threatened by Bankruptcy for over a decade. Maybe when they were the new kids on the block they could get a pass like the PS1 did, but 360 post Kinect onward looks a whole lot like the MS that abandoned the Xbox because it was "hemmoraging money"

P.S the excuses don't help either:

It's the consumers fault

wait till new sdks

wait till direct x12

wait till Windows 10



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Ka-pi96 said:
mornelithe said:
Zekkyou said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Just a little coincidental that this thread popped up right after that though...

If SO had a really high score, and we saw a large increase in the number of negative Xbox threads (similar to what we saw with TLOU and TLOU:R), then i could believe there was a correlation between the two. But a single thread on a topic we frequently see pop up? Nah.

lol, good point, we're nowhere even remotely close to TLOU/R levels of hatred.

dunno if we'll ever get to that level again.


I missed that period. What happened?



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Wow that was a dramatic title...

But seeing was we're in the XB1's last year, and PS4 is getting ghosts of tsushima, TLOU 2, and had FF7 Remake.

Has MS gone and done it again?

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ArchangelMadzz said:
Wow that was a dramatic title...

But seeing was we're in the XB1's last year, and PS4 is getting ghosts of tsushima, TLOU 2, and had FF7 Remake.

Has MS gone and done it again?

Honestly, I feel like Microsoft gave up on this gen a long time ago.  I don’t feel like Microsoft put out a very good effort all gen long.  I always buy all the consoles... but I’m gonna be very wary of buying the next Xbox.  Microsoft hasn’t been very impressive for the last decade...



ArchangelMadzz said:
Wow that was a dramatic title...

But seeing was we're in the XB1's last year, and PS4 is getting ghosts of tsushima, TLOU 2, and had FF7 Remake.

Has MS gone and done it again?

Yes.



ArchangelMadzz said:
Wow that was a dramatic title...

But seeing was we're in the XB1's last year, and PS4 is getting ghosts of tsushima, TLOU 2, and had FF7 Remake.

Has MS gone and done it again?

Xbox has had Ori and will have Minecraft Dungeons, Wasteland 3, Halo Infinite, Psychonauts 2, Tell Me Why, Grounded, Call of the Sea, The Ascent, Second Extinction, and any other Microsoft launch title for XSX we don’t know about, since they’ll be cross gen. There’s also stuff like Battletoads that can still be 2020 for all we know.

Seems like MS is giving Xbone owners plenty.