yes, but after the 10m ioi said they changes something in theire way to crunch up the numbers. (not by just adding 700k to row and europe sales)

so maybe they fixxed it, or there are new unexpected sales bump for ps4 what cause aditional undertracked numbers.

as i said both is possible.

1.55m september ps4 sales

whole europe is nearly the same as us right now ltd for lts figure

september was 650k in europe while 538k for us

that leaves ~330k for row

do u think that is heavily undertracked?

so while ps4 is selling 538k in the us it sells 1.2 outside of the us (if we suspect the ps4 is undertracked here, it has to sell that amount) with abysmal japan numbers? us marketshare below 30%. i hardly doubt that.

but it doenst matter. we have to wait for the end of the year to get new numbers form sony. before we will never find out

Yeah, word of mouth appears to be reviewers kryptonite.  Which I think is how it should be.

I just hope Sony will announce numbers at PS Experience. Any old numbers will do.

They wont be announcing anything before 20 million mark. I dont think 20 million is possible unless Sony decides to use 20 million shipped numbers. So we have to wait.

They improved, that's true, maybe it's undertracked by only 200now.

We'll have to wait for official numbers to see ( the problem is, maybe they are good to track the sales now in a normal week without huge games but i think it will be very hard for them with Far Cry 4+ GTA V + COD + Unity , November and december will be completly undertracked, because they have no way to know how much these games will impact PS4 sales, that's why there is often big adjustments for november and december  in january, so we should wait for january after official announcement )

Did the 360 fall off a cliff that quickly in Japan? Those XBO numbers are horrifying.

Anyhow, the 3DS dropped kind of a lot it seems. I know there's still some stock shortages, but that much?
VGC continuing to fix their mistakes. Everything else is in line with suckishness.

We use 'one sided' in the same way here in Britain too. I think he's just playing.

Thanks for the information.

haha so whats this now... a roughly 4.9 million gap between the wiiu and PS4? awesome lol

Assuming these numbers are relatively correct and will stay like this for the rest of October, also assuming that the PS4 is going to have similar holiday growth as the PS3, so November is about 2x October and December is about 2x November, if we assume those things then we can estimate that the PS4 will be around 19 mil at the end of the year.

Could end up enitrely different though.