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Forums - Nintendo - Nintendo Results Q2 FY14: WiiU 0.61m, 3DS 1.27m

 

WiiU shipments?

<300k 41 7.84%
 
300k to 400k 21 4.02%
 
400k to 500k 45 8.60%
 
500k to 750k 112 21.41%
 
750k to 1.0m 50 9.56%
 
1.0m to 1.25m 37 7.07%
 
1.25m to 1.50m 23 4.40%
 
>1.5m 50 9.56%
 
see results 142 27.15%
 
Total:521
Ka-pi96 said:
kowenicki said:
Ka-pi96 said:

That's not true. Sony have. As long as we are only talking about the gaming business then they have got both good sales and profit.

thats irrelevant though.

Sony gaming doesnt operate in a bubble or autonomously, it operates within the confines of a parent that is losing billions.

and it doesnt make much profit anyway.

It is relevant. In a discussion of whether companies should leave the gaming industry or if gaming is doomed then Sony's profits in that industry are very relevant. They show that there is money to be made there and Sony should stay active in that industry to keep making that money.

Here is a hint. Look at Kodak. Their film business was profitable right up till bankrupcy. One division cannot sunstain a company that is bleeding everywhere else. The leadership at Sony has to get the whole company back to profit, or else..... it is just a matter of time. However the only thing that Sony has going for it is that despite its huge losses it still has revenue growth.



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so wiiU heavily overtracked

 

100k more sold through than shipped units

edit: nvm just 100% sold through. that 7.4 vgc numbers is as of 18th october. not 4th



3DS suffering from Japan decline massively (last year MH released in September which gave the 3DS its highest ever September).

The only silver lining for the 3DS is that they have a strong lineup for the holidays with Smash and Pokemon (Pokemon releasing on Black Friday week should be interesting). Also N3DS will give it a kick in Japan and Australia for this quarter, and they'll be looking forward to it next year. Still a bit more life for this handheld I believe.

Wii U should also be much higher year over year in November and possibly December with MK and Smash combo. Not sure how high the impact will be but I'm sure they'll meet their shipments target imo. Black Friday week is the biggest key.



How EXACTLY is it overtracked?

That's from September 28th sales. And 600K shipped, right? So apparently Wii U did not sell about half of it's shipments in a month. Because that's the ONLY way it would be overtracked.



WhiteEaglePL said:
How EXACTLY is it overtracked?

That's from September 28th sales. And 600K shipped, right? So apparently Wii U did not sell about half of it's shipments in a month. Because that's the ONLY way it would be overtracked.

600k shipped for July+August+September. LTD shipments of WiiU are 7.29m and VGC has sell through of 7.34m in the same time frame. Unless you believe -50,000 WiiUs are on the shelves its definitely overtracked. More likely 300-400k because there has to be a few hundred k on the shelves at least



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Ka-pi96 said:
Deeds said:

All I know is that the lil guy at the corner store is still in business after about 23 years, but Enron (a 100 billion plus company) isnt. At the end of the day.

Profit = good

Loss = bad

Great sales = good

Terrible sales = bad

Growth in sales = good

Lack of growth in sales = bad

What investors really look at is revenue and profit growth.

Think of the owners of those though. The guy at the corner store is still working long hours every week and will continue to do so for a long time, while the former Enron owner is probably sat on a huge pile of cash.

Bad example.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353455/Enron-son-dead-Ex-CEO-Jeffery-Skillings-son-JTs-overdose-break-up.html
"former Enron CEO faces agonising wait to see if he is allowed out of prison to attend his son's funeral"



WhiteEaglePL said:
How EXACTLY is it overtracked?

That's from September 28th sales. And 600K shipped, right? So apparently Wii U did not sell about half of it's shipments in a month. Because that's the ONLY way it would be overtracked.


Well the Wii U is still over tracked from Q1, and the fact that there would not be 50k-60k consoles on store shelves WW at a given point in time.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

Xevross said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
How EXACTLY is it overtracked?

That's from September 28th sales. And 600K shipped, right? So apparently Wii U did not sell about half of it's shipments in a month. Because that's the ONLY way it would be overtracked.

600k shipped for July+August+September. LTD shipments of WiiU are 7.29m and VGC has sell through of 7.34m in the same time frame. Unless you believe -50,000 WiiUs are on the shelves its definitely overtracked. More likely 300-400k because there has to be a few hundred k on the shelves at least


I don't get it.



I found this part very interesting... linked from the Reuters article:

"Through April to September we saw sales improve, especially overseas in the U.S. and European markets," Iwata said of the Wii U. "This year is different to last year, when we headed into the year-end without momentum or good software prospects...The goal is fully achievable."

That must have sucked last year, knowing you're heading into a holiday season with a non-flagship 3D Mario and not much else. They knew last year they weren't going to fare well. This year will be much better for them.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/29/nintendo-results-idUSL4N0SO3CG20141029



The Screamapillar is easily identified by its constant screaming—it even screams in its sleep. The Screamapillar is the favorite food of everything, is sexually attracted to fire, and needs constant reassurance or it will die.

So Nintendo is back on track and not doomed ...

Who would have thought it?