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Nintentacle said:

To make it short, it shouldn't even be called a branch of Christianity.


I'm just trying to figure out if you're being serious or not.  Catholicism is the original form of Christianity, before Lutherans and others left the Church and began their own.  How can it not be called a branch of Christianity if other branches of Christianity originally came from it?

Are you not aware of this?



 

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Nintentacle said:
XanderXT said:

You're insulting the way of life of billions by making threads like these.

Well, I think they're wrong. There's no reason to care what other people think of me, or if they are offended by what I say.


Not a fan of Mark 12:31?



Nintentacle said:
WagnerPaiva said:

Nintentacle, you are incorrigible... Look at what you done...

Well, you could tell me what I am doing, so I can know.

I don't know if you've read it yet, but "Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured."

Sure, I am actually proud of you.

Let no man have a false idea. If any man seems to himself to be wise among you, let him become foolish, so that he may be wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolish before God. As it is said in the holy Writings, He who takes the wise in their secret designs:
And again, The Lord has knowledge of the reasonings of the wise, that they are nothing.

1 Coríntios 3:18-20



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

Soriku said:

Every organism is technically in between. Evolution has no end goal. If we manage to colonize other planets, some humans who reside on those planets may actually evolve from homo sapiens to another humanoid species.

You probably aren't going to see modern fish getting legs since, again, it's a slow process.

We've already studied pieced together earlier fossils of earlier species and shown how they gained legs over time.


I didn't say God evolved (though the thought is amusing). I simply asked, if God created humans from dust, why is there still dust? This is a similar question to "If humans came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" that religious people like to use all the time.

If I were religious, my answer would be "he didn't use up all the dust". Similar concept here...not all apes diverged and became humans. Key word is "some". Only some did. Others diverged and became chimps, bonobos, gorillas, etc.

I don't understand why religious people say "you believe we came from nothing" like their stance is any different. By this same logic, you believe God came from nothing. If you say he was always there I can say the universe was always there too.

I'd argue I'm more humble than you because I don't believe humans are a special species chosen by some god. Humans are just another animal on Earth. We're highly intelligent, but not in favor with a god.

1. That's why I put "between" instead of between. What you could do is study a species that doesn't live long.

2. Part of humbling yourself is actually realizing you are a sinner/nothing.



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kljesta64 said:
Soriku said:
kljesta64 said:

Leadified said:

 Evolution is accepted by virtually every scientist in the Western world and is defined as a fact. 

 


again this evolution is fact nonsense.

show me one proof where one 'species' a fish for example evolved into another 'species'  an ape,dog,chihuahua,human...


You're not going to have modern day fish evolve into modern day apes, dogs, etc. They're on a different branch.

Even if it happened, it would take much longer than the the average human lifespan of 70-80 years. So even if it could happen, you wouldn't be alive to see it, and so you wouldn't believe in it.

We've already seen changes happening in bacteria and fruit flies FYI. Given enough changes, enough diversity (mutations and natural selection), and enough time, new species can form.

'can form' is not a fact right ? 


They have formed.

I personally find it strange that it's quite believeable for people that a mere sperm and egg can turn into a fetus --> baby --> child --> teenager --> adult yet evolution is some sort of impossibility.

theres no tangible evidence therefore NO.

theres no place for personal believes. and birth has nothing to do with the evolution 'theory'.



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Leadified said:
Nintentacle said:
XanderXT said:

You're insulting the way of life of billions by making threads like these.

Well, I think they're wrong. There's no reason to care what other people think of me, or if they are offended by what I say.


Not a fan of Mark 12:31?


Jesus said in answer, The first is, Give ear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord;
And you are to have love for the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.
The second is this, Have love for your neighbour as for yourself. There is no other law greater than these.

Mark 12:29-31

I am sure he love us, he is trying to save some souls here, I respect that.

I do know these kind os talks are seeds, maybe some of the same that scoffed here will one day be found by the Holy Spirit.

Also, I do believe we are the Matthew 24 right now, time is really short.

Make clear to us, when will these things be? and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the world?
And Jesus said to them in answer, Take care that you are not tricked.
For people will come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and a number will be turned from the true way through them.
And news will come to you of wars and talk of wars: do not be troubled, for these things have to be; but it is still not the end.
For nation will be moved against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and men will be without food, and the earth will be shaking in different places;
But all these things are the first of the troubles.
Then they will be cruel to you, and will put you to death: and you will be hated by all nations because of my name.
And numbers of people will be turned from the right way, and will give one another up and have hate for one another.
And a number of false prophets will come, causing error.
And because wrongdoing will be increased, the love of most people will become cold.
But he who goes through to the end will get salvation.
And this good news of the kingdom will be given through all the world for a witness to all nations; and then the end will come.
When, then, you see in the holy place the unclean thing which makes destruction, of which word was given by Daniel the prophet (let this be clear to the reader),
Then let those who are in Judaea go in flight to the mountains:
Let not him who is on the house-top go down to take anything out of his house:
And let not him who is in the field go back to get his coat.
But it will be hard for women who are with child and for those with babies at the breast in those days.
And say a prayer that your flight may not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath.
Because in those days there will be great sorrow, such as there has not been from the start of the world till now, or ever will be.
And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short.
Then if any man says to you, See, here is the Christ, or, Here; do not put faith in him;
For there will come up false Christs, and false prophets, who will do great signs and wonders; so that if possible even the saints might be tricked.
See, I have made it clear to you before it comes about.
If, then, they say to you, See, he is in the waste land; go not out: See, he is in the inner rooms; put no faith in it.
Because as in a thunderstorm the bright light coming from the east is seen even in the west; so will be the coming of the Son of man.
Wherever the dead body is, there will the eagles come together.
But straight away, after the trouble of those days, the sun will be made dark and the moon will not give her light and the stars will come down from heaven and the powers of heaven will be moved:
And then the sign of the Son of man will be seen in heaven: and then all the nations of the earth will have sorrow, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he will send out his angels with a great sound of a horn, and they will get his saints together from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Now take an example from the fig-tree: when her branch has become soft and puts out its leaves, you are certain that the summer is near;
Even so, when you see all these things, you may be certain that he is near, even at the doors.
Truly I say to you, This generation will not come to an end till all these things are complete.

Matthew 24:3-34

If the fig tree is Israel (as the bible often states) and a generation in prophecy is what Moses said in Psalms 90:

The measure of our life is seventy years; and if through strength it may be eighty years, its pride is only trouble and sorrow, for it comes to an end and we are quickly gone.

Psalms 90:10

So, 1948 (Israel reborn) + 70-80 years = 2018-2028.

Also, all the sodomy, self pride, anger, wars, blood and demon adoration. And, of course, the scientifical blasphemes of denying God and making animal hybrids.

Heck, even the ancient never denied God, they just hated Him. We are in the very very very last days.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

Leadified said:
Nintentacle said:
XanderXT said:

You're insulting the way of life of billions by making threads like these.

Well, I think they're wrong. There's no reason to care what other people think of me, or if they are offended by what I say.


Not a fan of Mark 12:31?

If I were them, I would want them to tell me I am wrong.

"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."



WagnerPaiva said:
Nintentacle said:
WagnerPaiva said:

Nintentacle, you are incorrigible... Look at what you done...

Well, you could tell me what I am doing, so I can know.

I don't know if you've read it yet, but "Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured."

Sure, I am actually proud of you.

Let no man have a false idea. If any man seems to himself to be wise among you, let him become foolish, so that he may be wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolish before God. As it is said in the holy Writings, He who takes the wise in their secret designs:
And again, The Lord has knowledge of the reasonings of the wise, that they are nothing.

1 Coríntios 3:18-20

Well, It's kind of like that Puppy picture you posted. According to you, I made a mess, but I don't understand exactly what caused it. Since I have the capacity to understand if you said what caused it, that's what I want you to do.



WagnerPaiva said:
Leadified said:


Not a fan of Mark 12:31?


Jesus said in answer, The first is, Give ear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord;
And you are to have love for the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.
The second is this, Have love for your neighbour as for yourself. There is no other law greater than these.

Mark 12:29-31

I am sure he love us, he is trying to save some souls here, I respect that.

I do know these kind os talks are seeds, maybe some of the same that scoffed here will one day be found by the Holy Spirit.

My idea of "love" is not telling people their religion is wrong and saying that they're going to burn in hell for all time. Not to mention there's millions of other Christains who say the same thing to "non-believers" and their fellow Christains because they believe they are following the wrong sect.

Imagine if some officer came up to you and said. "Hey you need to love the dear president or else we're going to throw you in a dirty prision cell for the rest of your life."  and people think the officer is so kind and righteous for giving you a chance to be saved. Nevermind what the officer is doing in the first place is fucked up.



Nintentacle said:
WagnerPaiva said:
Nintentacle said:
WagnerPaiva said:

Nintentacle, you are incorrigible... Look at what you done...

Well, you could tell me what I am doing, so I can know.

I don't know if you've read it yet, but "Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured."

Sure, I am actually proud of you.

Let no man have a false idea. If any man seems to himself to be wise among you, let him become foolish, so that he may be wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolish before God. As it is said in the holy Writings, He who takes the wise in their secret designs:
And again, The Lord has knowledge of the reasonings of the wise, that they are nothing.

1 Coríntios 3:18-20

Well, It's kind of like that Puppy picture you posted. According to you, I made a mess, but I don't understand exactly what caused it. Since I have the capacity to understand if you said what caused it, that's what I want you to do.


I was just joking really. I know you mean to do good in these threads. But people have no idea of how short time really is right now, specially Mistery Babylon... I mean, America...



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.