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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A9Iu-E80-w&index=2&list=UUo_IB5145EVNcf8hw1Kku7w

 

Holy shit! I knew that IT security was bad, but I had no clue it was this fucking bad!



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spurgeonryan said:
That is bad!


Yeah! I mean what the hell? How can it be that easy? @_@



I have scare to click the link... D:



Looks like we're all doomed if nothing changes.



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It's scary because people don't understand it and as such believe everything. Very cherry picked incidences of which none would result in a world like Watch Dogs.

Will not go into the details of these incidences a lot of which are caused by random failures and coincidences but let me tell you this.
Everything is hackable if you have a bit of knowledge, a lot of time a nd a good amount of luck. However you need to be a target. If you're not a target you won't get hacked, simple as that. The vast majority of people are not targets so they won't get hacked.



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vivster said:
It's scary because people don't understand it and as such believe everything. Very cherry picked incidences of which none would result in a world like Watch Dogs.

Will not go into the details of these incidences a lot of which are caused by random failures and coincidences but let me tell you this.
Everything is hackable if you have a bit of knowledge, a lot of time a nd a good amount of luck. However you need to be a target. If you're not a target you won't get hacked, simple as that. The vast majority of people are not targets so they won't get hacked.


What scared me the most was that those IBM engineers so easily managed to hack that nuclear powerplant. That one doesn't seem like a cherry picked coincidence. What if some terrorist organisation tries to hack a nuclear powerplant, and tries to make it have a meltdown/blow up/whatever?

 

BTW, are you accusing me of believing everything due to a lack of knowledge?



mZuzek said:
drake_tolu said:
I have scare to click the link... D:

It's the second part of the game theory on Watch Dogs. Which is actually not a game theory, but still.

I wish they hadn't made these videos. I wouldn't be scared with that kind of stuff, and it would be giving less ideas to hackers.

I don't think hackers need to get any ideas from youtubers, especially since it seems all the ideas in that video have been done already.

If that is all true, and of course one must not automaticaly believe everything they hear or see on the interwebs, it is pretty scary stuff.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

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If I've heard about this 10 years ago, I'd be scared shitless. Now, I just don't care. I refuse being forced to be scared by the hacker scum or a shady company. Sure, the things on the video would suck for millions of people. But not me.

*waits for hacker to scare me showing all of my personal data*



Teeqoz said:
vivster said:
It's scary because people don't understand it and as such believe everything. Very cherry picked incidences of which none would result in a world like Watch Dogs.

Will not go into the details of these incidences a lot of which are caused by random failures and coincidences but let me tell you this.
Everything is hackable if you have a bit of knowledge, a lot of time a nd a good amount of luck. However you need to be a target. If you're not a target you won't get hacked, simple as that. The vast majority of people are not targets so they won't get hacked.


What scared me the most was that those IBM engineers so easily managed to hack that nuclear powerplant. That one doesn't seem like a cherry picked coincidence. What if some terrorist organisation tries to hack a nuclear powerplant, and tries to make it have a meltdown/blow up/whatever?

 

BTW, are you accusing me of believing everything due to a lack of knowledge?

They didn't "easily hack a power plant". They relied on a chain of stupid people to do the work for them. This maybe workes in 1 of 100 cases.

Also hacking one terminal doesn't mean you can do anything with it. Systems do not tend to be converged, especially not in a high security scenario. Pretty sure that all the critical stuff runs on a different application and maybe even a different OS. Also probably far from any network connection.

You don't just look at something and then type in a few commands and suddenly it's hacked. You need a chain of events, lots and lots of information and a good portion of luck. And it all comes down to the stupid people to wreck everything for themselves with only minimal input from the hacker itself. I mean how do you think the attackers obtain vital information? Because stupid people don't know when to shut their mouths or write mission critical passwords on pieces of paper.

Security systems and network designs nowadays are fairly secure. That's why you can't compare incidents from 20 years ago with today. Hell not even incidents from 5 years ago. Network and security technology moves very fast. And the more critical the application the faster it moves.

This race isn't decided by how skilled an attacker is or how advanced the technology used is. It's a race of how far from vital applications can the companies keep the idiots.



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vivster said:
Teeqoz said:
vivster said:
It's scary because people don't understand it and as such believe everything. Very cherry picked incidences of which none would result in a world like Watch Dogs.

Will not go into the details of these incidences a lot of which are caused by random failures and coincidences but let me tell you this.
Everything is hackable if you have a bit of knowledge, a lot of time a nd a good amount of luck. However you need to be a target. If you're not a target you won't get hacked, simple as that. The vast majority of people are not targets so they won't get hacked.


What scared me the most was that those IBM engineers so easily managed to hack that nuclear powerplant. That one doesn't seem like a cherry picked coincidence. What if some terrorist organisation tries to hack a nuclear powerplant, and tries to make it have a meltdown/blow up/whatever?

 

BTW, are you accusing me of believing everything due to a lack of knowledge?

They didn't "easily hack a power plant". They relied on a chain of stupid people to do the work for them. This maybe workes in 1 of 100 cases.

Also hacking one terminal doesn't mean you can do anything with it. Systems do not tend to be converged, especially not in a high security scenario. Pretty sure that all the critical stuff runs on a different application and maybe even a different OS. Also probably far from any network connection.

You don't just look at something and then type in a few commands and suddenly it's hacked. You need a chain of events, lots and lots of information and a good portion of luck. And it all comes down to the stupid people to wreck everything for themselves with only minimal input from the hacker itself. I mean how do you think the attackers obtain vital information? Because stupid people don't know when to shut their mouths or write mission critical passwords on pieces of paper.

Security systems and network designs nowadays are fairly secure. That's why you can't compare incidents from 20 years ago with today. Hell not even incidents from 5 years ago. Network and security technology moves very fast. And the more critical the application the faster it moves.

This race isn't decided by how skilled an attacker is or how advanced the technology used is. It's a race of how far from vital applications can the companies keep the idiots.


Well that doesn't make me feel that much safer. There are more than enough idiots in this world for the hackers to utilise!