So basically "it's not us, it's them", lol.

If we have two versions of the same game, one is 1080p and 60fps and the other is 720p 30 fps, and they release in two or more platforms, all versions are usually sold at the same price. If that happens, the weaker version is more profitable to the company, because they are getting the same money from a version that didn't take as many resources as the superior version. I know there are a lot of different cases (remakes, ports...), and the versions can sell very diferent numbers, but still.

The one having the problem is the console manufacturer. If Sony doesn't do anything to incentive devs to use their machine at its fullest, this is going to be the norm, because finantially it makes sense. And if that happens, the only games using the hardwaer at its maximum will be the exclusives.

well written but wrong, this time. there is not much to learn and optimize, its basicly a pc, and x86 is well known.

Outside of better character models and animations, I dont see where else does AC Unity beat GTA V on PS4.

Nope.  The amount of ACE's in the PS4's GPU is only matched by AMD's R9-290 series, which are less than a year old.  And considering we're talking devs who've been working on static hardware from 2007 for the past 7 years, they didn't just wake up yesterday and learn how to use it properly. 

I didnt stuck a nerve at me at all, where did I display the signs of annoyance in my post? Maybe its your nerve that its stuck when you are briging up such a defensive statement. Given that your console maker of choice is Nintendo who not only makes underpowered consoles, but rather histerically  underpowered consoles, it wouldnt surprise me that you bring up PCs in every thread related to Xbone/PS4 to compensate for something. This is even more apperant since the majority of your post is about how PCs are better than next gen consoles and not about the original points you or I have made. So much for that.

People dont buy Titan GPUs, not because they dont need them, but because they cant afford them, which is painfully obvious, because most people in the industry dont have 1000$+ to spend on a graphic card alone. And you didnt need a high end PC to play majority of multiplats, most certanly not with the same graphically fidelity which is on PS360. However, this does bring up another major advantige consoles have over PC and that is future-proofing (for the lack of a better word) You buy a console and you'll guranteed to be able to play all multiplat games for the entire generation whereas for PC, you'd have to keep spending hunderds of dollars on upgrading your GPU, CPU and RAM.

Also, you didnt actually adress any of my points in the post, most of it is just your typicall ''PC is superior'' rambling you are known for here. Thats fine and all, but it doesnt disprove my statments on the next gen consoles being build on developer feedback and the graphics standard being set by the consoles rather than the most powerfull GPUs at the market.

The engine has to be toiled to work that way. And you will only get marginal better, just look at all the 1080 vs 900p games we have for the last year.

IT DOESN`T MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE!

it was total different hardware...   there is just not so much new to learn

I have an issue with the wording of this “anonymous dev”, not you. There was nothing confusing about what you said, it was just irrelevant to the topic.

Anyway, I’d suggest you read through their presentation. I came to this thread after having just finished reading it (after being linked to it by another thread), so the silliness of the OT was especially apparent.

It could be a case of bad wording, but in its current form the OT has the substance of cotton wall.

Ubisoft themselves recently published a test to show just how much you can actually get out of GPGPU, and it was a lot more than you can get out of the CPU.

If you check my posts in this thread, you'll se that it's not the fact that it's 900p that bothers me, it's just that they (if this in fact is a Ubisoft dev) come up with this lame excuse. We know that the PS4 could do this in 1080p if they optimised it for GPGPU. I'm not even saying that they have to do that, but instead of this excuse, they should just say it's too much of a hassle, and you only get marginal differences. Now that explanation would've been way better.