Be real, no one expected Driveclub to do well in Japan.

tbone, I don't know how you can tell Ninpie to not talk sales and then make a post like this.

When a series is no longer growing, then it's going downhill. It may eventually plateau, but Monster Hunter is not growing. It's decreasing in popularity.

As for the comparison of PS4 to PS2. Of course it was always going to be downhill for the a single console after PS2. PS2 is king, and we'll never see that type of dominance in this industry ever again. PS4, while doing very well, isn't the PS2. it's ok to say that.

Thats funny to me. I will be off by 5mil for XY, im not ashamed about it. And that has literally nothing to do with the topic at hand. This just shows your backed into a corner and have to resort to petty insults.

And like i said before that logic is terrible. Pokemon isnt as big as it first was but it remains to be the biggest exclusive franchise (or at least 1st party franchise) of all time despite it being "Downhill" :->

Downhill is the same when people use the word flop/bomb. Its over exaggerating. People who say PS4 is going Downhill because PS2 160mil seems silly to me.

If a game sells 5mil then bext entries sell 4mil, i guess its going downhill? Omg, i cant :-/

A memory card is nowhere near the same as a control input. Though yes I agree Sony messed up on the memory cards. It's certainly nowhere near the deal everyone seems to make out on here though. Given hardware sales of the Vita, it's probably a good thing they didn't open up the system to potential piracy, software sales are bad enough as it s haha.

However, and it seems to have really been ignored by pretty much everyone here, Vita's have had a memory card included with them for most of their lifespan (ranging from 4gb to 16gb depending on the set). They have also been doing extremely good value game + memory card bundles. 10 games (inc ones like WipeOut, Little Big Planet etc) and 16gb card for £40. So anyone who says they were going to get a Vita, but the memory card killed it is just talking out of their ass. A Vita and memory card and 10 games, + an additional 32gb memory card purchased on top has been cheaper than a Solus 3DS XL in the UK for the past year and a half.

And thats without anything like cross buy, PS+ and the fact that most of the better Vita software can be had very reasonably priced even physically (£15 is about the average cost of a Vita game)

It's actually pretty ironic that after overhyping and underdelivering on the PSP, Sony actually released a handheld that lived up to it's promises and it utterly bombed.

it isnt a big deal which is true.

Vita sales are mostly due to not having the big games like the psp had. It doesn't help how Sony portrayed the hardware either, and keeping it in thedark during conferences (excluding Japan ones) was a mistake.

Not trying to downplay vita, but sony is extremely lucky to have third party support in japan (has more than 3ds as by looking at this year releases in comparison). If Sony was in Nintendo shoes they would be f***ed with the vita.

Thank goodness for support from third party devs :0

I had a prediction that Sony was going to try hard with the vita tv at least in the West. It came out yesterday here in the US!

By whatever metric you want to call it, NinPie's comment was "logical", because the series has gone downhill (whether that's an over-exaggeration or not) since Portable 3rd, since that was the current peak in both FW and LT sales in Japan.

Considering you told him he "shouldn't be talking about sales" for saying that, depsite the fact he backed up what he said with evidence, Outlaw has a very fair point.

Without meaning to cause any offence, this seems like another case of somebody saying something which isn't 100% positive about something Nintendo related causing you to go into overdrive to try and defend it.  Calm down and read what's being said rather than inferring and getting aggressive.

 
It starts with this http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6751369

This is first week sales, i say it is good as its the third best debut, and Ninpie switches the conversation to either lifetime going downhill or something as irreverent as my prediction of Pokemon XY sales. Im srry but I am calm but wht Ninpie was talking about ist 100% logical at all (meaning not all of his points/statements)

Wow, there is more salt in this thread than the Pacific.

You know what.  I don't even care that much.  I think 4G did great.  You argue semantics with NintendoPie all you want, just please keep it civil.