Yea thats what i ment..Less graphics better performance.  i  stil think games like  god of war 3 and beyond 2 souls look amazing!

Not fair since one of the MODS changed it.. lol ..  Now my post makes less sense.. 

Plenty of last gen games still look amazing to me too.

Hell, I can still boot up Mario Galaxy, a game that came out 7 years ago on hardware that was outdated and underpowered even then, and it's still a thing of beauty.

As for 1080p/60fps, it's simply a matter of tradeoffs. Xbone can do it fine with a game like Forza 5, but not if you want to achieve Ryse level fidelity. Even on PS4, you could achieve better geometry/materials/detail at 900p/30fps than at 1080P/60fps.

Possible but makes no actual difference to me if they do or not

I dont care about it to some people  missed the point i wanted to make.

EDF on the psvita and ps2 is a game i had so much fun with yet the framerate sucked monkey balls.

But the game could have been better if the framerate whas solid 30FPS.

Graphics are important  part of a game but nowadays people tend to think its the MOST important part of the game.. and gameplay suffers from that.

metal gear solid 5 with 1080p and 60 fps on ps4 : D

Yea and its open world and looks amazing!

The ps4 is not even 1 year old here in holland its impossible that dev already put out 100%  of what it can handle.

You are wrong OP

The PS4/ONE cannot handle 1080p @ 60fps at the gfx quality people are expecting.

The sad truth is people care way more about visuals than the other components of the game these days.

Art style! Art style ages very well.

i think i even remember a ps1 game that runed at 60 fps...ofcourse the ps4 and xone CAN handle it..but indeed not with amazing graphics but  then again....mgs5+ uncharted 4  says hello