Carl2291 said:
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Well here you go. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6864715
Also id recommend deleting his comment if you can so other people dont try it as well
| RolStoppable said: You are not going to drag me into this like that, slob. Besides, the point you are trying to make is pro-moderation in this case. |
I am not dragging you into this per se but it's your point ... How does one go about trolling when there's no intent to cause grief ?
Why exactly do you think my point is pro-moderation in this case ?
the-pi-guy said:
All we got out of that is that ioi wrecked it; because he was trying to fix stuff. |
Maybe im reading it wrong but he says "I did that stuff as a going away party. I'm done with vgchartz and really don't care about posting or viewing threads here anymore."
Though maybe he is talking about the stuff he did a week or two ago.
| JayWood2010 said: Its STAGE. I really see no reason to argue any of his bans with the way pretty much "all" his comments are. And I really dont think he is dumb, i believe he knows what he is doing and its one of the reasons he is so disliked in the community. Honestly i dont know why he hasnt been permabanned yet |
I don't like the guy much either but once every 3 full moons or so I'll eventually find something that I'll agree with aside from his regurgitated points ...
He maybe one of the less approved member in this community because the amount of grief he causes in one part of the community yet this time he deserves better ...
| RolStoppable said: How do you call something an "underpowered joke" without the intent to cause grief? Let me try... slob, your brain is an underdeveloped joke. Nope, I don't think that's possible. |
There's a difference between poking out a flaw in product and outright insulting a user!
Insults towards another person ALWAYS includes an intention to cause grief but the same can't be said about the former ...
fatslob-:O said:
There's a difference between poking out a flaw in product and outright insulting a user! Insults towards another person ALWAYS includes an intention to cause grief but the same can't be said about the former ... |
But he could very easily have said something other than an underpowered joke. Had he been calmer and said, say, that the system didn't get the support because it wasn't as powerful as it's competitors thrn things would have been blurred somewhat.
He didn't, and his intentions were clear. He's often dancing around moderation but not today.
| RolStoppable said: How so? You say that as if there are no words in existence to point something out without being derogatory. |
If calling a certain attribute of a product a "joke" is what people consider to be derogatory then things must've really become so soft these days ...
Calling it a "joke" is indeed harsh but what's so different from calling it "weak" or even "laughably weak" when it's just as harsh ? If these terms are considered trolling then you may as well single out almost every word that's used to negatively describe something.
What was STAGE doing so different from some PC gamers on this community ? PC gamers keep calling consoles a "joke" from a raw power perspective all the time so what's the problem with STAGE using the same stick to beat on recent Nintendo consoles ?
Whether STAGE's comment was pejorative or not is somewhat besides the point here since he made his intent VERY clear to point out the flaw, not come into the thread to start up a crapfest. He may have made an overstatement but it's far from what one would consider trolling ...
Constructive criticism ? Then again I wonder what the other posts were that got Soundwave in trouble ...
| RolStoppable said: Someone pointed out a flaw in his logic and he retaliated by attacking Nintendo rather than thinking about his previous post. Calling the Wii an "underpowered joke" wasn't the only thing he did, he also put the responsibility for bad third party games on Nintendo instead of the companies who made those games. Then he continued with even more flaws in his logic to push the narrative he came to voice even further. At that point there's no room for doubt anymore when it comes to the intent of his posts. |
He's definitely what you describe to be unyielding and I agree that many of his arguments have flaws however the things you just mentioned were his long standing beliefs ... Yet
Belief =/= Intent
| RolStoppable said: What S.T.A.G.E. is doing different is that that is what he keeps on doing. He dances on the line and every now and then he needs a slap on the wrist. This was a part of the ban reason and it was also reiterated in this thread. What do the rules state? Something along the lines of "an opinion, even if well defended, can be subject to moderation if it's repeated over and over again", although in S.T.A.G.E.'s case the problem is more that he demonstrates that he is unwilling to take information into account that goes against his argument. Therefore his opinion isn't even well defended, it's just reiteration of the same points, even if flaws in his argument are highlighted. You can argue that S.T.A.G.E. lacks the brain capacity to respond properly and have an actual discussion that is going somewhere, but... |
The offense you mentioned goes under "spam" and I even agree with you that STAGE is mostly inconsiderate other members arguments yet at that specific post he gave a clear justification for his comment so this time he deserved some benefit of the doubt rather than an absolute banhammer ...
| RolStoppable said: ...the job of the mod team is to make these forums grounds for intelligent discussion and what S.T.A.G.E. does does not result in such. An unwillingness to take counterpoints into account runs contrary to that goal. It drags threads into a mess because eventually the only people left will be S.T.A.G.E. and the people who try to prove him wrong (which he won't concede because he will go for deflection by reiterating previous points). It's a similar scenario to what used to happen whenever zero999 got involved. And for that matter, it's also the same thing Soundwave does. Any moderator who bans those people has my support, especially when said culprits try to use the "don't shoot the messenger" rule to hide behind the mods. |
The job of the mod team is to justly uphold rules and NOTHING ELSE yet STAGE got the short end of the stick here ... These things does indeed drag the thread into mess but we've allowed it for such a long time so what exactly does need to be different in how the situations are handled now ?
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