Or the enemy was too busy attacking Ratchet or was under the effects of the groovitron.

The darkburst is actually capable of sucking things in, so the net and the disco ball will be going too indestructible or not. I don't see how the golden version would be an advantage over the space jump. With the space jump, Samus is basically unreacheable due to the fact that she can basically "fly." It doesn't matter how many disco balls you put out, they have limited range while Samus can just shoot every thing downwards.

I doubt Jak would stop Toon Link from controlling time since Toon Link also has magic armor item, so he doesn't have to worry about attacks.

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This is without the high jump ability and screw attack which will make Samus harder to get and destroy the tentacle. I doubt Fred will devour her even if he got her,  powerbombs will kill Fred and the darkburst and sonic boom will tear him a new one. No more Fred, no more Rift Ripper 5000. Sonic can get her back. Nevermind that Samus can run at supersonic speeds.

Also, no counter to the Triforce or Monado?

I doubt that Link's magic armor can nullify Jak's time freeze. Jak's powers are based on Light Eco, which were also used to power the Planetary Defense Systems. I mean, he only needs to kneel and clap, and everything arounds him stops. What's a magic armor going to do against Jak's Supernova weapon? I mean, toon link won't come out unscathed from a huge explosion.

Also, the exact form of Fred is unknown since the only thing that comes out of the rift are tentacles, that if I remember correctly, grabbed every enemy that dared get near it. So Samus might not have the weaponry to fend off something that might be bigger than anything she has faced. Also, if Samus wanted to kill Ratchet, she wouldn't know that Ratchet also has a Decoy Glove, where he launches decoys of himself. Humorously, every enemy falls for it. So if she falls for it and tries to kill him in close quarters, she'd fall for anything that Ratchet has set up. If she wants to Mach 3 towards him, she'd encounter a decoy. Now Ratchet can just throw the Groovitron and make her dance. She can't attack while dancing; she won't stop dancing when attacked. So Fred will just drag her to the other dimension and munch her.

Oh, and I almost forgot. Ratchet has 999HP and his Carbonox Armor absorbs 90% of the damage he takes, and the Tesla Barrier on top of that. So it will take a while after Samus can take him down. Samus can be strong and all, but it's not like if her powersuit is as hard as diamonds. I think I just saw a video of Metroid: Other M where a dinosaur eats and kills her. If that's the kind of damage her Varia Suit can withstand, I think the Mag-Net can hold her up enough for her to be exploded to chunks like in the first Metroid game.

It gives him invulnerability over a period of time. However, since Jak froze time, Link's magic armor is now invulnerable for the time stop since time is frozen. Also, what's really preventing Link from stopping time? It's not like he takes time doing a time-stop. You also didn't counter Sonic's time stop either.

Samus definitely has the weaponry to fend Fred off. You seriously gave me nothing to believe that Fred would kill Samus other than tentacles and "unkown form" That's nice and all, but Samus's various visors can tell which one is real and which one is false. You still didn't address on how Ratchet would even see Samus due to the fact that Samus is way too fast for Ratchet. I really have doubts the Fred will even harm Samus. Really, you keep saying that Ratchet would hit her with the disco or Fred despite the fact that she's several times faster than her to the point where she can hit him before he can even blink.

Also, which dinosaur are you referring to? Vorash? Samus only had the basic powersuit(no varia upgrade) with only two energy tanks(the max you can collect at that point since Other M is a linear game for a Metroid game). With the varia suit, and plentiful amounts of energy tanks, she can easily shrug off nukes. Also, in that same scene, Vorash munched through that bridge which is made from Bendezium and Maldium, that same thing that easily takes nukes.

The mag-net wouldn't do anything to Samus's suit, as I said before, takes multi terawatts with low damage. In fact, why can't Samus just blow every single weapons Ratchet has?

What makes you think that Samus can just kill an interdimensional creature she knows nothing about? If an enemy caught by Fred would've killed him, he would've been dead already. Even her fancy visor would not detect the monster's full capabilities since she can't see how he is from the interdimensional portal. While Ratchet can't see her, Jak can stop time to spot her location, and allow Ratchet to open a disco ball, let her dance a bit and open a rift so she can immediately be dispatched by Fred. I've seen clips of her running and being curled up in a ball, and to be honest, she is not that fast (in the clips I've seen). The Mag-Net might not make damage to her, but it will hold her long enough for Ratchet to use any tactic. You might doubt that Fred won't eat her, but this isn't just a reckless fight. It's a tactical one. If at first Samus doesn't know about the capability of Ratchet's weapons, she'll go towards him and at least try to attack him. He deploys the disco ball, she starts dancing and getting her groove on, she gets all tentacle'd by Fred and dragged away to be eaten. If she's under the effect of the Groovitron, she can't attack Fred at all. The only way she'll stay away from Ratchet and his disco ball is for her to snap out of the effect and learn from it, which is impossible since Ratchet will use everything to his advantage to get rid of her. Her visor would only inform her that it's only a harmless disco ball

Honestly, this argument has gone in circles and it won't seem to end anytime. I don't see samus killing Ratchet in any way. Harm him? Probably? Kill him? Doubtful. I still stand by saying that Ratchet would beat samus.

Why does it have to be explained that an object being indestructible within its own game is not necessarily indestructible by nature?

Most characters' clothes do not sustain visible damage. But that doesn't mean everyone is wearing super armor that is impervious to any kind of attack that can be thrown at them.

This applies to equippable items and to "plot armor." Weapons that are clearly made of metal or even less durable materials have the properties of those materials whether they are exhibited in-game or not.

Ganondorf is only killed by the Master Sword in Zelda, but it's not impossible for another weapon to kill him. He is still a man. There is nothing comparable to Samus' arsenal in the Zelda universe. There are swords and shields, some crude magic with nearly mundane applications, literal God power, and little in-between (highly advanced machines with powerful lasers that... cause an unpleasant burning sensation). Samus has mini-nukes, and the beams that come from her arm cannon are even more powerful than those.

Ultimately, the fun in these pissing contests ought to come from comparing characters with nothing in common. Especially when weirdos like Kirby or Game & Watch get involved.

We have debunked this so many times it's not even funny...

You seriously believe all that they said? You need to play GOW series first to know the extent of Kratos' powers, which you guys clearly haven't.

I doubt that Link's magic armor can nullify Jak's time freeze. Jak's powers are based on Light Eco, which were also used to power the Planetary Defense Systems. I mean, he only needs to kneel and clap, and everything arounds him stops.

Whether or not Ganondorf can die without the master sword depends on whether or not he has the Triforce of Power with him. You could possibly kill him given enough force, but I doubt he would just sit around and let you do it.

Why does it have to be explained that an object being indestructible within its own game is not necessarily indestructible by nature?

Most characters' clothes do not sustain visible damage. But that doesn't mean everyone is wearing super armor that is impervious to any kind of attack that can be thrown at them.

This applies to equippable items and to "plot armor." Weapons that are clearly made of metal or even less durable materials have the properties of those materials whether they are exhibited in-game or not.

Ganondorf is only killed by the Master Sword in Zelda, but it's not impossible for another weapon to kill him. He is still a man. There is nothing comparable to Samus' arsenal in the Zelda universe. There are swords and shields, some crude magic with nearly mundane applications, literal God power, and little in-between (highly advanced machines with powerful lasers that... cause an unpleasant burning sensation). Samus has mini-nukes, and the beams that come from her arm cannon are even more powerful than those.

Ultimately, the fun in these pissing contests ought to come from comparing characters with nothing in common. Especially when weirdos like Kirby or Game & Watch get involved.