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QuintonMcLeod said:
DerNebel said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

Why are people spelling doom on a game that's only has a few days worth of sales while being in 5th place based on those few days? Seriously. You folks need to calm down. This isn't a full week worth of sales for Bayonetta 2. We have to look at the numbers next week to draw any concrete conclusions.

Literally everytime a game comes out and underperforms at least one person comes and makes this senseless excuse and it's literally proven wrong everytime.


But this only reflects one or two days of sales!

Bayonetta came out on the 20th, and the Tsutaya rankings ended on the 21st. I mean... Seriously? Are you really going in this direction?

Every game gets this much time on their first week. Bayonetta 2 is no different. Get past the denial stage of grief.



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Bail said:
These Bayo 2 numbers make me hope Platinum Games will do a PS360 and/or PS4One version.

Because we couldn't go a whole thread without somebody saying it.



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Mr Khan said:
Bail said:
These Bayo 2 numbers make me hope Platinum Games will do a PS360 and/or PS4One version.

Because we couldn't go a whole thread without somebody saying it.

Don't act like there aren't worse posts in this thread.



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People here are forgetting that Tsutaya is just one of the many retailers chains that exist in Japan. Their ranking not always reflects Media Create or Famitsu rankings. We should wait a little bit before jumping on conclusions.



ktay95 said:
Wow, Quinton proving that his words aren't to be listened too. How does one use Youkai Watch's legs as a defence for Bayo2?? Shit I thought I said stupid things on here.


I see that went over your head.

The first 3 days of Youkai Watch being on the market didn't fortell to its further success. No one knew it would suddenly explode into the success it is today until much later. Saying the first 3 days is the highest a game will sell is pretty silly. The same happened with SM3DW. 



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Kresnik said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

How does it prove me wrong when it's pretty obvious that 1 day (or even 3 days) of sales doesn't prove a game is a flop. I also referenced two games.

1) Super Mario 3D World

2) Youkai Watch (the first one)


I don't even understand what you're trying to say with those examples.  You seem to be shifting your argument.  I thought your point was that it only had 1 day worth of sales?

Super Mario 3D World released on a Thursday (4 days worth of sales)  Youkai Watch released on a Thursday (4 days worth of sales).

3D World's second week dropped by 60%.  Youkai Watch's second week dropped by 50%.

Unless you're saying they're games with poor first weeks which went on to have good LT sales.  

In which case, sure.  I counter you with the example of pretty much every game series that isn't developed by Nintendo or have a freakishly successful anime.

So what exactly is it that you think is going to give Bayonetta such amazing legs?

What exa


Here is my point:

1 day worth of sales isn't enough to determine the success or failure of a game.



QuintonMcLeod said:
ktay95 said:
Wow, Quinton proving that his words aren't to be listened too. How does one use Youkai Watch's legs as a defence for Bayo2?? Shit I thought I said stupid things on here.


I see that went over your head.

The first 3 days of Youkai Watch being on the market didn't fortell to its further success. No one knew it would suddenly explode into the success it is today until much later. Saying the first 3 days is the highest a game will sell is pretty silly. The same happened with SM3DW. 

3D World still hasn't sold well, so you should really stop using it as a defence. Youkai Watch grew in popularity thanks for a very popular anime that gets better ratings than Pokemon. That situation isn't applicable to Bayonetta and the audience targeted by Bayonetta 2 is so completely unlike Youkai Watch (it's aimed at children).

Once again, move past the denial stage of grief.



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QuintonMcLeod said:

I see that went over your head.

The first 3 days of Youkai Watch being on the market didn't fortell to its further success. No one knew it would suddenly explode into the success it is today until much later. Saying the first 3 days is the highest a game will sell is pretty silly. The same happened with SM3DW. 

 

Yokai Watch was a special situation where it was a new IP that was boosted remarkably by a very successful anime that launched later on. It also targets a younger audience, which is a market that is typically less likely to buy a game at launch.

It's very unlikely Bayonetta 2 will show any legs. The game is a known quantity targeting a mature audience on a small userbase.

If you don't look at sales threads regularly, I understand it must look a little weird that we're judging the performance of a game on just two days. However, the opening week of sales are a very strong indicator and represent a large proportion of lifetime sales. There are exceptions of course, but Bayo 2 won't be one of them.



Purple said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

I see that went over your head.

The first 3 days of Youkai Watch being on the market didn't fortell to its further success. No one knew it would suddenly explode into the success it is today until much later. Saying the first 3 days is the highest a game will sell is pretty silly. The same happened with SM3DW. 

 

Yokai Watch was a special situation where it was a new IP that was boosted remarkably by a very successful anime that launched later on. It also targets a younger audience, which is a market that is typically less likely to buy a game at launch.

It's very unlikely Bayonetta 2 will show any legs. The game is a known quantity targeting a mature audience on a small userbase.

If you don't look at sales threads regularly, I understand it must look a little weird that we're judging the performance of a game on just two days. However, the opening week of sales are a very strong indicator and represent a large proportion of lifetime sales. There are exceptions of course, but Bayo 2 won't be one of them.

Much like Hyrule Warriors, we have no reason to think it will have legs because of all of the past data we have access to. It's unreasonable to think Bayonetta 2 will be different than the hundreds of examples we have.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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Purple said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

I see that went over your head.

The first 3 days of Youkai Watch being on the market didn't fortell to its further success. No one knew it would suddenly explode into the success it is today until much later. Saying the first 3 days is the highest a game will sell is pretty silly. The same happened with SM3DW. 

 

Yokai Watch was a special situation where it was a new IP that was boosted remarkably by a very successful anime that launched later on. It also targets a younger audience, which is a market that is typically less likely to buy a game at launch.

It's very unlikely Bayonetta 2 will show any legs. The game is a known quantity targeting a mature audience on a small userbase.

If you don't look at sales threads regularly, I understand it must look a little weird that we're judging the performance of a game on just two days. However, the opening week of sales are a very strong indicator and represent a large proportion of lifetime sales. There are exceptions of course, but Bayo 2 won't be one of them.

Plus legs really aren't a thing for core games in Japan, so the doomsaying is, sadly, accurate.

The West was the better hope for this game anyway. Hell, TW101 did, proportionately, best in France.



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