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fatslob-:O said: The only market that the PS4 has been consistently performing well in is Europe and bringing up Japan numbers would be pitiful FWIW. Being unstable in an important market is just asking for trouble ... |
4M in 10 months is not unstable lol it is together with Wii the fastest selling console ever in US.
ethomaz said:
Your spin didn't changed a FACT. It is overperforming yet... come back when it started to underperforming A hint... it won't be next month because it will do over 500k easily. |
best its averaging 246k a month for the year, sept will of course skew thing north of that.
What underperforming..
| ethomaz said: 4M in 10 months is not unstable lol it is together with Wii the fastest selling console ever in US. |
Why don't you go take a look at 2014 numbers instead including launch numbers to strawman my point ...
Soundwave said:
That looks like five fairly underwhelming months for the PS4 in a row. But I guess no one should mention that because it might ruffle a few feathers. The 360 was not the market leader, that would be the Wii. Why don't you put the Wii's first year up next to the PS4? |
Lol, your bias is showing. You COMPLETELY ignored where September is going to make up for that AND most likely beat THE WII's AND PS2'S first September. You know, the only consoles you can compare the PS4 to to say its doing poorly, even though the PS4 is still ahead of them currently.
| ethomaz said: Better? Wii PS4 Wii: ~4m Wii is right now ~30k ahead but it will be below PS4 again next month because Destiny will make PS4 do more than 500k. PS4 is a monster... I know. BTW 360 is the market leader in US. |
The Wii was definitely a monster alright, but the statistics of the decline for the PS4 are not easy to ignore. In fact, if you gave this to a statistician they'd tell you that a bridge is on fire. Its consistent and visible, and you can see that even the front-loaded sales were overcome by the Wii within a few months AND it maintained a much stronger baseline. The Destiny blimp is nothing more than exactly that, a blip.
In fact, since we want to look at this statistically long-term, then the trend would very, very much devalue that huge launch spike and make the PS4 curve project much, much worse than the Wii's almost flat line. The trajectories of these consoles are, given current data, not even remotely similar. In fact, every console this gen has a trajectory right into a shrinking market. (Not to mention that the PS4 has utterly failed in Japan...)
Odd day for me to be on Soundwave's side of the fence but the statistics are impossible to ignore for someone who works with statistics.
| Soundwave said:
I think you're acting like a child that can't deal with someone saying Santa Claus isn't real or something. Just for reference sake though I got pretty the same reaction from some Nintendo fans on this board a while ago when I said there were some serious red flags with the 3DS evident in lulling sales numbers, but I got the same "BUT BUTU BUT, it already has sold 20 millionz! When Pokemon X/Y/Z comes out sales will go to the supernova". Reality: 3DS sales actually went down year over year even with Pokemon because of actual market trends, which I and a few others here identified quite early in the game but took a lot of heat for pointing out because hell hath no fury like a fanboy who's just had his cheerleading pom-poms spurned. |
PS4 is out pacing PS2 according to NDP. Its at 4m same as wii. Its literally going toe to toe with the two sale sgaints of gmaing, ever.
There have been numbers posted in the thread that show you are doing nothing but trolling.
To deny and try to spin cold hard fatcs is proof enough you are just trolling. When PS4 dropes behind PS2 start a thread about it how its underpreforming, right now you are just a fool arguing reality.
By the way you are the biggest fanboy in this entire thread, not only that you are a moron to boot.
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thismeintiel said:
Lol, your bias is showing. You COMPLETELY ignored where September is going to make up for that AND most likely beat THE WII's AND PS2'S first September. You know, the only consoles you can compare the PS4 to to say its doing poorly, even though the PS4 is still ahead of them currently. |
I said 190k for a first August as a market leader is underwhelming.
So stop putting words into my mouth. If you're going to have an arguement at least know what you're arguing about.
The Wii's first September was just ... September, nothing special or no big game released for it, and it still crushed 500k, which is bloody incredible by the way.
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fatslob-:O said: Why don't you go take a look at 2014 numbers instead including launch numbers to strawman my point ... |
Because the console launched? It happened to sell at launch... it was not a ilusion.
fatslob-:O said:
Why don't you go take a look at 2014 numbers instead including launch numbers to strawman my point ... |
why do you get to cherry pick numbers to suit your needs while he cant ?
facts is they are even at 4m while when they sold that really matters little to the reality of the fact.
ethomaz said:
Better? Wii PS4 Wii: ~4m Wii is right now ~30k ahead but it will be below PS4 again next month because Destiny will make PS4 do more than 500k. PS4 is a monster... I know. BTW 360 is the market leader in US. |
Ouch. 
Good post. And I completely ignored where he said the 360 wasn't ahead. I could have sworn he was a 360 fan, so I figured he would have known that.
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