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Forums - Sales - August 2014 NPD Thread! PS4 - 190k, XBO - 160k, Wii U < 60k, PSV < 6k

Soundwave on 12 September 2014
ethomaz said:

Soundwave said:

So it is ok to compare the PS4 to the PS2, yes or no?

Or only when it favors the PS4? Seems like the Sony fanboy gestapo only wants it one way.

PS4 is way ahead PS2...


You do realize the PS2 was at 3.52 million in *Japan* alone after 7 months right? 



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ethomaz on 12 September 2014

Soundwave said:

Behind Wii and PS2 soon. And it hasn't been "overperforming" for several months now, the last 5 straight months in North America have been lukewarm and the Japanese post-launch has been an utter disaster.

Wii soon... PS2 maybe in one year... that is a big maybe yet.

Being ahead is OVERPERFORMING.



fatslob-:O on 12 September 2014
ethomaz said:

Fact.

PS4 is yet the fastest selling console in the history... it will be lack behind Wii soon but for now it is overperforming.

Yet it can't even consistently meet a monthly minimum of 250K in North America ... 



Maciveli on 12 September 2014
Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:
fatslob-:O said:
Intrinsic said:

like he said,

how many times are you gonna ignore the facts????? "4 months" (better?) does not negate total sales. You keep focusing on 4 months to spin your argument, ignoring all the sales data.........

either way... 1 month or 4 months the facts still remain. the PS4 got to 10M before the PS2. And the PS2 went onto become the best seling console of all time. 

Lets look at it another way, if you sell 300k of your console for 12 months (january to december) and end the year having sold 3.6M consoles, and I sell 50k of my console for 9 months but somehow.... I end the year (also after 12 months) having sold 5M consoles. 

Of the two of us who do you think would be regarded as more successful? How is it possible that you do not see the sense in this?

You know damn well that the comparisons aren't fair since the PS2 has had yet to launch in the majority of it's regions at that time so why don't you align the territory releases together to see how well that goes. 

You're right, it's not fair.  For the PS4.  Wanna know why?  The 10M for the PS2 is manufactored units.  Not shipped to store, just manufactored.  It's just how Sony handled the numbers back then.  They changed to the standard shipped numbers when the PS3 launched.  PS4's numbers are actual SELL-THROUGH numbers.  If we did apples to apples, then the PS4 passed PS2's "10M" months ago.

So it is ok to compare the PS4 to the PS2, yes or no? 

Or only when it favors the PS4? Seems like the Sony fanboy gestapo only wants it one way. 


LPS4 as of now same time frame has sold more then PS2, according to NDp.  Are you incapably of understanding simple numbers ?

You are trolling aint you, only gettign away with it casue its agianst sony and this forum has a rep as sony haters on other gaming sites.    



Zanten on 12 September 2014
Soundwave said:
ethomaz said:

Soundwave said:

So it is ok to compare the PS4 to the PS2, yes or no?

Or only when it favors the PS4? Seems like the Sony fanboy gestapo only wants it one way.

PS4 is way ahead PS2...


You do realize the PS2 was at 3.52 million in *Japan* alone after 7 months right? 

Wait, I thought we weren't discussing differences in their market situations, just raw numbers? o.O Or are we only looking at the differences in their market situations that support your point?



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ethomaz on 12 September 2014

Soundwave said:

You do realize the PS2 was at 3.52 million in *Japan* alone after 7 months right?

So PS4 is at 4 million in US after 10 months... 6m+ in EU + RotW after 10 months...



Maciveli on 12 September 2014
fatslob-:O said:
ethomaz said:

Fact.

PS4 is yet the fastest selling console in the history... it will be lack behind Wii soon but for now it is overperforming.

Yet it can't even consistently meet a monthly minimum of 250K in North America ... 


Murica only matters there is no other markets in the world.  



ethomaz on 12 September 2014

fatslob-:O said:

Yet it can't even consistently meet a monthly minimum of 250K in North America ...

Your spin didn't changed a FACT.

It is overperforming yet... come back when it started to underperforming

A hint... it won't be next month because it will do over 500k easily.



fatslob-:O on 12 September 2014
Maciveli said:

Murica only matters there is no other markets in the world.  

The only market that the PS4 has been consistently performing well in is Europe and bringing up Japan numbers would be pitiful FWIW. 

Being unstable in an important market is just asking for trouble ... 



Soundwave on 12 September 2014
Maciveli said:

LPS4 as of now same time frame has sold more then PS2, according to NDp.  Are you incapably of understanding simple numbers ?

You are trolling aint you, only gettign away with it casue its agianst sony and this forum has a rep as sony haters on other gaming sites.    


I think you're acting like a child that can't deal with someone saying Santa Claus isn't real or something. So what if someone doesn't say the PS4 has great sales or is looking at sales trends from a more nuanced POV. 

Just for reference sake though I got pretty much the same reaction from some Nintendo fans on this board a while ago when I said there were some serious red flags with the 3DS evident in lulling sales numbers, but I got the same "BUT BUTU BUT, it already has sold 20 millionz! When Pokemon X/Y/Z comes out sales will go to the supernova". Reality: 3DS sales actually went down year over year even with Pokemon because of actual market trends, which I and a few others here identified quite early in the game but took a lot of heat for pointing out because hell hath no fury like a fanboy scorned. 

And the thing is I'm not even talking in the context of your silly "console wars", I don't give a sh*t about any of that. I'm looking at the business from a meta-sense. 

 

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