How many more timea are you going to ignore the facts?? 1 month does not negate the total sales. You keep focusing on the 1 month to spin your argument, ignorng all the sales data..........

Chapset also echoed our sentiment in the previous page so that makes the 3 of us

ROFL AGAIN,,,,it has sold fine, considering how FAST it went past 10 million, again.ther gens had low supply for months longer thus spreading out it's launch sales...again you keep ignoring this....Sales are going to go up drastically now in sept, what will you say then??? It is a fluke month?

The 360 and ps3 had price cuts befire hitting 10 mill, you keep ignoring tta...they also would have sold less in later months had they had million mmore supply up front for early adopters liek PS4 did....

It's 4 MONTHS so why don't you get it right next time before you respond to me ...

I am looking at the whole picture and suffice to say I'm partially dissappointed about the PS4's performance ... 

Just because things have become harder does not excuse a leading platforms weak performances. Look I'm not saying that the PS4 is doing bad but Sony needs to fix it's minmum ASAP.

You need to relax. Not everyone thinks 180k-250k a month/baseline is godly, which is where the PS4 has been hovering for a while now. 

All consoles get a bump from August to September traditionally. 

PS3 was still above $400 for the majority of the lifecycle before it hit 10 million, so I'm not sure if that really does anything to prove your point. 360 was $299/$399 for years with no one buying the "core model". 

I am looking at the whole picture and suffice to say I'm partially dissappointed about the PS4's performance ... 

Just because things have become harder does not excuse a leading platforms weak performances. Look I'm not saying that the PS4 is doing bad but Sony needs to fix it's minmum ASAP.

i dunno how to say this to you... but i will try.

markets change and so do trends. Consoles are sold and priced differently than how they were back then. manufacturing methods improve. New markets are entered...etc.

Just an example, back then it was practically impossible launching a new console worldwide and selling as much as 4M consoles in 2 months. launches were usually staggered which meant that sales were spread out over subsequent months as opposed to being front (or seasonal) loaded as they are today.

Having said all that, the PS2 may be "kicking the PS4s ass" according to you these past few months, but it doesn't change that fact that somehow the PS4 still managed to get to 10M sold before it. Front loaded, more markets, monthly sales, it doesn't really matter. How many consoles were sold over a set period of time from launch is the best way to measure the success of any console. 

And as far as that goes, the PS4 is winning. it doesn't matter if the PS4 sells 100k per month if it somehow sells 6M in 2 months and still ends up beating the PS2. Unless you have your head in the sand that is.

So lets make it fair, lets see how many months it takes the PS4 to get to 10M, then 20M then 30M then 40M in relation to how long it took the PS2 to do the same. Whenever the PS2 reaches any of those milestones before the PS4 we can then say its outpacing the PS4. That should be the logical thing to do. Then again, I have just illogically said all this to someone that probably would agree/understand a single line here. 

Common sense is not so common these days. And this post is proof of that, cause if i did have any sense, i would know better to have even bothered explaining this to you.

Again that is NOT the baseline, a couple monthds is not a baseline.....the avg for ps4 is a LOT higher for the year....and it's biggest sales are yet to come..the baseline is wher e it is BECAUSE of how fast it hit 10 millioin meeting demand faster then anythign not named the wii, a fact you keep ignoring.

Great post. I think it's very telling that people try to compare PS4 to the best selling consoles in history (PS2 and Wii) in order to attempt to downplay it.

If PS4 fizlles this holiday, then the haters will have a point. But the fact does remain that extremely high availability caused massive early sales to meet demand at a high level near launch. Past launches are riddled with hot selling consoles being supply limited, and there are TONS of examples of that. That's why you see some 300-400k off-holiday months for previous market leaders, but then you look at those older consoles and you find that yep, the supply was limited on launch.

Demand for PS4 is actually quite impressive considering the summer doldroms (games are more expensive to make, so you see less common releases of major titles of course). Things are going to bo bananas starting in September though.

PS4 is primed to have a solid shot at the biggest September sales of all time, or very near to it. If anyone tries to downplay those numbers when they're released, well I don't know what to say.

One could also easily make the point, going by indications that more PS4 Destiny Bundles have already been sold than XB1 Titanfall bundles have been sold in ALL of 2014, that a decent amount of customers were moved from June-August into September, nerfing the PS4's sales somewhat. Balancing it out, an average of June-September might well turn out to be ~375k roughly. We'll know soon enough.

It goes without saying that the people trying to downplay the PS4 sales are .. predictable, to be kind. And that's all I can say about that.