Looks like sales are more frontloaded now than ever, I wont be surprised if the consoles sell 40% of their yearly sales in Nov/Dec

That makes no sens,e they were front loaded due to supply would have been the same last gen...sales will be big in the fall., please, people with this doom talk don;t have a clue what they are talking about. If ps3 and 360 sold 3-4 million more due to supply early on it's sales in the summer would also have dropped more. Meet demand faster =- slower sales after in slower months..Why don;t people get this?

Wii U looks to 59.7k right now, according to some angles.

I was being a bit wry, actually. xP To be honest, even if the PS4 isn't keeping up with the PS2, wouldn't exactly consider that a strike against it, given best selling console of all time etc, etc. Kind of like saying a boxer isn't very good because he can't KO Mohammad Ali. As things stand- with changing markets from decade to decade- the best measure really IS how it's measuring up against its competitors, and the other two fellas really have done teeeeerribly at competing against it so far. Which brings me back to 'If the PS4 isn't doing anything special, the Xbox One must be doing e-special-ly bad' point. =P It's all kind of relative.

I agree, comparing anything to ps2 is silly, that is never happeneing ever again..it had no competition, japan was still a big market, and games like GTA were exclusive to it. Bringing up ps2 is a bad attempt to discredit ps4.....nothing more.

Wii U sub-60k? Well, that's just...sad.

So much for "not overtracked"...

So the WiiU is near 60k that is not too bad and the rest of the year there will be some release each month so it wont be completely empty like this summer was

PD: Hello Aquamarine you should make an account here and start posting if not for the site for the community here

Aye, like I told the other fella, I was being a bit of a tease with that. xD If I can get a 'The Xbox One Is Doing Badly' out of him, I'll be pretty happy. But comparing two different time periods really is a bit pointless, under the circumstances; the products, and the markets they were selling to, were very different, so I think that even trying to measure 'success' using a console two generations ago as a measuring stick- one that released before so many titles became multiplatform- isn't really going to lead anywhere. If the PS4 DOES hit that number somehow, great. But not keeping up with it shouldn't be considered a failure, if it's still kicking the competition's ass up and down the street.

daredevil.shark said: It seems only Sony guys are always commenting here. Other platform lovers are non existent here. Who knows the reason is?

I exist in my current form, and I post here~

Your claim is false ;)

Then again, I see how this can be true. It's depressing if you're actually invested in the consoles themselves.

I don't understand why people focus so much on sales numbers when profitability matters more.