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Legend11 said:
I think it was the RROD that by far has caused the current situation. Had the hardware been rock solid I really think the 360 would be at 20 million right now and the PS3 would be struggling at 6 or 7 million.

It's really too bad it happened because as far as software goes people like Peter Moore did an amazing job at getting games like Grand Theft Auto 4 and Resident Evil 5 for the system and gaining major support from a lot of developers that only gave token support at best to the original Xbox.
 The 20 million I can bealive , but PS3 beeing at 6 or 7 is way to low . IMO , it wouldent have affected the PS3 sales so much , but only the difference would be bigger ... 

 



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DMeisterJ said:
Lot to read, but he makes a good point, XBOX 360 sold less in 2007 than 2006. I've been saying that for months but no one listens. The XBOX 360 will probably wind up selling even less this year.

 

Well 2007 did have two competitors... For 2008 there should be a price drop so should sell more than 2007 just based on being cheaper.  Basically I doubt it will see less this year.

I think what has happened is that people hyped the 360 too much. It only began "dominating" the PS3 last August, and even the domination every talked about was due to Sony blowing it big time with the PS3, and Halo 3 being released.

The 360 was never doing amazingly. It was just doing better than a failing PS3 and a failure, the original Xbox. But there was never a 360 rave or revolution except on the Internet. I'm glad sites are starting to reveal the 360 for the fraud that it is.Its a good console, its lineup is better than the PS3, but it doesn't do anything thats really breath taking.

Think about the jump from the PS1 to PS2. Now think about the jump from PS2 to 360. Its not even close. Its not RROD as much as it is the wow factor. It lacks anything that makes you NEED to upgrade. And thats why it might do well with fans of its software lineup, but those who aren't looking for a reason to like the 360 will never find one (at this rate, atleast.)

Many of you also have to admit, if GTAIV was released tommorow the PS3 would own that launch. It may not sell more software, but its hardware boost would be 3x that of the Xbox360. Unless Microsoft really has a huge budget they are throwing at the launch to make it seem like a 360 exclusive, even that extra content isn't going to save them this year. They wont even come close to last years totals since Sony is selling lots more now, and Gears 2 is absolutely not Halo 3.

Even the 3/4 most recent multiplatform games are "better on the PS3" according to gamepro. We have seen that the Arcade doesnt sell well because of recent sales, so there is a $50 difference between the 360 and PS3. That difference is nullified by the Live yearly cost. So when you can get the experience for the same price, with more features, and bigger AAA titles being released this year why go with the 360? 15-30% chance your hardware will fail, and the biggest game is behind you.



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Jandre002 said:
I think what has happened is that people hyped the 360 too much. It only began "dominating" the PS3 last August, and even the domination every talked about was due to Sony blowing it big time with the PS3, and Halo 3 being released.

The 360 was never doing amazingly. It was just doing better than a failing PS3 and a failure, the original Xbox. But there was never a 360 rave or revolution except on the Internet. I'm glad sites are starting to reveal the 360 for the fraud that it is.Its a good console, its lineup is better than the PS3, but it doesn't do anything thats really breath taking.

Think about the jump from the PS1 to PS2. Now think about the jump from PS2 to 360. Its not even close. Its not RROD as much as it is the wow factor. It lacks anything that makes you NEED to upgrade. And thats why it might do well with fans of its software lineup, but those who aren't looking for a reason to like the 360 will never find one (at this rate, atleast.)

Many of you also have to admit, if GTAIV was released tommorow the PS3 would own that launch. It may not sell more software, but its hardware boost would be 3x that of the Xbox360. Unless Microsoft really has a huge budget they are throwing at the launch to make it seem like a 360 exclusive, even that extra content isn't going to save them this year. They wont even come close to last years totals since Sony is selling lots more now, and Gears 2 is absolutely not Halo 3.

Even the 3/4 most recent multiplatform games are "better on the PS3" according to gamepro. We have seen that the Arcade doesnt sell well because of recent sales, so there is a $50 difference between the 360 and PS3. That difference is nullified by the Live yearly cost. So when you can get the experience for the same price, with more features, and bigger AAA titles being released this year why go with the 360? 15-30% chance your hardware will fail, and the biggest game is behind you.

The 360 wasn't hyped as much as the PS3 promising two hdmi ports with dual 1080P screens etc.  The PS3 had all these launch games like msg and others that have yet to see th light of day etc.  All the 360 has had all this time is being the first one out of the gate and having a great library of games.  All this domination stuff is made up by fanboys.  The reason SONY blew it as you claim is because of the 360 else we would still have a $600 PS3 to this date.  Competition brought the PS3 down to $399 not SONY screw up at least in my opinion.

The 360 was doing fine for a $399 console same with the PS3 though once tose prices dropped sales increased and will continue to do so.  Basically with your logic the PS3 is also a fraud? 

Again your saying the PS3 is also lacking the WoW factor?  COuld it be that some of the earlier 360 games where basically PS2 ports?  How about when you finally saw a game build from the ground up like gears it didn't wow you?  Guess is just personal opinion and I think yours is mainly in the minority.  Plenty of reasons to like a 360 usually the main reason gamers like a system and that is games.  As you mentioned the 360 has a great library so what is your point? 

Not going to comment on that paragraph since your just rambling.

Finally you do make some good points in your final paragraph though the AAA games part is debatable at this point.  Guess you can just keep hoping the 360 goes away somehow.



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Actually from the looks of it 2008 may be the best year for Xbox360 and I am expecting it to peak this year.
Microsoft main issue is that the PS3 is improving a lot more in 2008 over 2007 than they are and they are loosing the momentum....

Blue Ray is starting to become a big factor in PS3 adoption and the fact that the Xbox360 has currently the biggest software line up will be less of an issue soon as the PS3 has some good titles coming out this year ( and wether you have 1000 titles or 500 titles out is not that much relevant, what matters is for a console to have a dozen or so good titles out so that there is enough to justify buying and keep customers playing on it..)



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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there no point saying in

"oh if there was no RROD"

I could say

"oh if PS3 wasnt $600 but $399 at launch then 360 would be at 14 million & PS3 at 14 million"



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^ or like me saying well if only the wii did hd it would be selling bet......never mind



 

If we see a similar trend in the PS3 beating the 360 by healthy margins each week, it will obviously spell trouble for the 360. Gears of War 2 may help remedy the situation, but it is unclear how many people will buy the console for it rather than simply "buy it as a sequel" because they bought the first one.



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If I was to see a weakness with 360 its simply that the 2007 sales were only a little ahead of 2006 and that on the back of Halo 3... its just to hard that there is anything that will push a big jump.

PS3 might never have a big jump either, but I believe it has more chance than 360 as its performing roughly even but still has its Halo 3 to come (assuming either MGS, FF or GT ever get released that is!) and with BR as choice for next gen high definition media it really is looking better choice. The only gap now is SW library but that will be close enough before the end of this year I think.

Still don't see either catching Wii unless the wind is taken from its sails over time (or it saturates market and PS3 becomes major second choice console).

In the end, unless MS tries yet another quick jump to a different consol, I think 360 can only end in third. The real question is will the PS3 only be a whisker ahead in 2nd or will it start to achieve really big sales and put distance between itself and the 360 over the next three years?



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