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Shootdatrupee said:
amak11 said:
Trhawk said:

What good does it do to have 6 billion in revenue, if expences are greater than revenue?


You say this like you have some insider source

What?! Please tell me you're aware of all those reports about Nintendo having had '3 years of consecutive losses' or something like that.

*even tho they technically made a tiny profit in one of those years*

It's two years and the losses haven't thrown them in the red. Sony's losses have put them in the red. This is the major difference. The only saving grace for Sony is something their investors thought was a toy  a few decades ago. 



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Fusioncode said:
amak11 said:

It's not as bad as the 5 years now Sony has posted losses. Considering they are about to be on a upswing i would avoid any sentiments 

What does this have anything to do with Sony? Now you're just deflecting because you're unable to respond to the topic on hand. 

I'm not deflecting, I responded to the original comment that sounded like the person had an inside source at Nintendo. If you want to talk about losses you need other losses to compare them to. Besides, this thread is abotu hypotheticals, and if i was to answer the topic on hand I would say their revenue would decrease heavily. 



amak11 said:
Fusioncode said:
amak11 said:

It's not as bad as the 5 years now Sony has posted losses. Considering they are about to be on a upswing i would avoid any sentiments 

What does this have anything to do with Sony? Now you're just deflecting because you're unable to respond to the topic on hand. 

I'm not deflecting, I responded to the original comment that sounded like the person had an inside source at Nintendo. If you want to talk about losses you need other losses to compare them to. Besides, this thread is abotu hypotheticals, and if i was to answer the topic on hand I would say their revenue would decrease heavily. 

Yes you are. The topic is about Nintendo making more money as a 3rd party publisher than a console manufactorer. Sony isn't a 3rd party publisher as far as I'm aware. Whether you want to accept it or not, the fact is Nintendo has posted losses 2 years in a row. Considering they still posted a loss last quarter, they're likely going to post another loss for the year. Sony isn't doing well, nobody is disputing that, but it has nothing to do with Nintendo's current financial state.



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Fusioncode said:

Yes you are. The topic is about Nintendo making more money as a 3rd party publisher than a console manufactorer. Sony isn't a 3rd party publisher as far as I'm aware. Whether you want to accept it or not, the fact is Nintendo has posted losses 2 years in a row. Considering they still posted a loss last quarter, they're likely going to post another loss for the year. Sony isn't doing well, nobody is disputing that, but it has nothing to do with Nintendo's current financial state.


Profit is not revenue, and we are talking about revenue in this thread. I injected it as a comparison, whether you are inclined to agree or disagree with my statement is entirely on you. Nintendo is not in the red. This is fact that you are not understanding. My prediction is they are not in the red and hopefulling making revenue. besides this thread is FOR FACT talking about whether Nintendo would make revenue (which is enough money to pay your expenses) if they are third party. They would not make any additional revenue meaning they would post considerably larger losses. The chances are at Nintendo's current employee number Nintendo would never  make profit on third party life. 



Nintendo is awesome and should never ever go 3rd party.



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amak11 said:
Fusioncode said:

Yes you are. The topic is about Nintendo making more money as a 3rd party publisher than a console manufactorer. Sony isn't a 3rd party publisher as far as I'm aware. Whether you want to accept it or not, the fact is Nintendo has posted losses 2 years in a row. Considering they still posted a loss last quarter, they're likely going to post another loss for the year. Sony isn't doing well, nobody is disputing that, but it has nothing to do with Nintendo's current financial state.


Profit is not revenue, and we are talking about revenue in this thread. I injected it as a comparison, whether you are inclined to agree or disagree with my statement is entirely on you. Nintendo is not in the red. This is fact that you are not understanding. My prediction is they are not in the red and hopefulling making revenue. besides this thread is FOR FACT talking about whether Nintendo would make revenue (which is enough money to pay your expenses) if they are third party. They would not make any additional revenue meaning they would post considerably larger losses. The chances are at Nintendo's current employee number Nintendo would never  make profit on third party life. 

Well I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Reminds me of the arguments I used to have with a certain permabanned poster. There's a zero percent chance you guys are the same though. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

41 out of the electronic companies in Fortune 500 are technology companies. Out of those 41, these are the only ones with over $5 billion in revenue with less than 10k employees

According to wikipedia (note most articles are locked articles);

Facebook has $7 Billion in revenue with only 7k employees. Dang

AMD has $5 billion in revenue as well but a little over 10k employees so I included them.

Priceline has 6.79 billion in revenue with 9k employees

CDW, traded as Nasdaq:CDW has $10.1 Billion in revenue with 6800+ employees. From Wiki CDW is "is a provider of technology products and services for business, government and education.

This is pretty impressive. The only companies that have over $5 billion in revenue and less than 10k employees are websites, a multinational semiconductor company, and a company that provides technology products and services for business, government, and technology. And if you look at the largest companies in the word, there are two commodities company. Nintendo is in a pretty selective group.



Ubisoft (2013) - Employees: 9,200

Revenue : €1.007 billion - Net income: €-66 million

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Konami (2012) - Employees 5,758

Revenue: $3.24 billion - Net income: $113 million

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Capcom (2010) - Employees 2,601 (2014)

Revenue: $728.1 million - Net income: $23.6 million

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SEGA (2011) - Employees: 2,208 (FY 2013)

Revenue - $4.9 billion - Net income: $512.857 million

 

All numbers: Wikipedia

 

OP:

Nintendo has 5200 employees. Revenue was 6 billion. 

Electronic Arts has 9370 employees. Revenue was 3.8 billion.

Activision has 7061 employees. Revenue was 4.6 billion.



amak11 said:
Fusioncode said:

Yes you are. The topic is about Nintendo making more money as a 3rd party publisher than a console manufactorer. Sony isn't a 3rd party publisher as far as I'm aware. Whether you want to accept it or not, the fact is Nintendo has posted losses 2 years in a row. Considering they still posted a loss last quarter, they're likely going to post another loss for the year. Sony isn't doing well, nobody is disputing that, but it has nothing to do with Nintendo's current financial state.


Profit is not revenue, and we are talking about revenue in this thread. I injected it as a comparison, whether you are inclined to agree or disagree with my statement is entirely on you. Nintendo is not in the red. This is fact that you are not understanding. My prediction is they are not in the red and hopefulling making revenue. besides this thread is FOR FACT talking about whether Nintendo would make revenue (which is enough money to pay your expenses) if they are third party. They would not make any additional revenue meaning they would post considerably larger losses. The chances are at Nintendo's current employee number Nintendo would never  make profit on third party life. 


You're right, profit is not revenue, profit is what matters. Given that, I don't think you understand what "in the red" means which leads me to believe you may not understand the difference between profit and revenue or any other financial terms. I suggest you look up these terms in investopedia.



2Ultra said:
Are you sure about this? Mario on multiple platforms as well as full blown Pokemon RPG could be huge. I'd LOVE to see the power of Metroid Prime on PS4 or Xbox One too!! Fire Emblem, too! I'm sure I've missed a few titles, but Nintendo has good stuff though I'm not digging their consoles since the Wii U...


No, third party isn't some magic bullet.

If people want to play Nintendo franchises they have to buy Nintendo hardware. Third party would be a dogshit bullet right between the eyes for Nintendo's assets as well as their ability to make games. They will no longer control the hardware environment nor the software kits, budgets would change drastically for games, they'd owe royalties and other fees everywhich way, and on and on the list goes. They'd need to see ridiculous, down right impossible, sales changes to become profitable on third party status, we're talking sales that would literally eclipse Wii software sales.