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fazz said:
windbane said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
polishforlife said:
stuff...

In short, the Wii of course can't match the PS3 and 360. Yet its specs are not as far behind them as systems an actual generation behind.


If the system that more powerful than he GC and Xbox, then why do all the big Wii titles look like GC games? Galaxy is only marginally better than Sunshine, MP3 marginally better, Brawl the same, Zelda since it was just a port, etc. 


And this is where I saw that: A) You never played Mario Sunshine, or B) I can't take you seriously anymore.

Seriously man, normal mapping, bump mapping, specular lights, specular reflections, fur simulation, bloom and 60 frames per second stable are are just marginally better?

/facepalm 


Go to gametrailers.com and look at the comparison video of Sunshine and Galaxy. You can list all the features you want but those aren't translating into much better graphics.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
windbane said:
blackbird3216 said:

"Only PS2, PSP, or DS games will be ported to the Wii."

Here ya go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Spin_3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceBreaker

and those are just examples. Im sure more will be coming, and im not surprised if RE5 is one of them.


FF7 on NES might have the same story but it wouldn't be the same game.


It'd oddly be better looking though.


Was that a knock to FFVII or something else?

Just curious.


Little of that little of it just being true in my opinion. The NES sprite conversions i've seen of FF7 characters actually were more athstetically pleasing then what I saw in FF7 as was the FF7 to NES video... FF7 is the ugliest videogame i've ever seen. (cutscenes aside of course.)

Well outside of some virtual boy games. This is from someone who has an Atari hooked up complete with some 2600 games.

When a game looks worse then Donkey Kong JR 2600 you've got some problems


Well it was Square's first effort at such a game, and I admit the blocky polygons were an odd aesthetic choice. the characters in battle looked nice, though.


Eh, I think they would of been better served keeping it 2-D for one more game and starting with the 3-D in FF8.  Of course that was likely impossible with how much Sony was putting towards the game and their push that every game be 3-D.

fazz said:
sc94597 said:
People who say the wii has last gen graphics maybe the ps3 and 360 are ahead of their time and the wii is what graphics should be from the technology we have for a reasonable price.

Nah, those people just want to express their hate towards the Wii. They don't even know about graphics or technology. 360/PS3 are not ahead of their time.


 Didn't Nintendo brag about Metroid 3 having better graphics than Halo 2?  It may have not been Nintendo but whatever.



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@fazz

Sorry, my mistake. I thought the PS3 was 3.5GHz, it's only 3.2GHz therefore only ~31 times faster.

@LordTheNightKnight

The Wii is single core. Find out what a "unit" is and let me know. I suspect it's just a thread.

 

It's actually my opinion that DMC4 could easily be done on the Wii, or the XBox 1 or PS2 for that matter. Obviously it wouldn't have 720p graphics, less audio detail, and maybe slightly different gameplay to cater for the different controller, with a Classic Controller option maybe. It's up to Capcom if they think it's worth the effort of completely rewriting the game. Maybe if enough Wii owners pester them...



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I think we can stop this thread. Two things are obvious, the Wii is more powerful than the GC but it is much nearer to the last-gen competitors than to the 360/PS3. This can be seen in its specs and in the games that are available. Nobody with eyes can argue against that.
This also answers the "Could DMC4 be ported" question. Of course it could but it would look much more like DMC3 than DMC4/PS3,360.

If somebody buys the Wii because of its graphics or processing power or features he picked the wrong console anyway. Nintendo really did concentrate on different things this time. And they are successful beyond believe. Personally I don't understand it, but apparently I am not in the target group.



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Any game can be done on the Wii, but would they look any good, HELL NO.



If there is a will, there is a way



Wii Code: 4819-7684-2396-4558

Can it be done? Of course!
Would it look as good as the ps3/360 versions? Of course not!
Would it look bad? Now people, not HD or the unability to see my character's zits it's not "bad" it's not Ugly, mario galaxy is gorgeous, but that is not the point, Wii games can look good.. it's just that the developers don't want to invest the time on it, on the other hand on the ps360 they are pretty much forced to, because that is all those systems have going for them right now.
It's actually kind of sad, put all your money on graphics, and developers will only work on those, put it somewhere else, and you will have a ton of games looking as bad as the tech demo you include in the console...
Wii has a killer app, and it's galaxy, now 3rd party should follow and do something good.



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bigusdickus said:

@fazz

Sorry, my mistake. I thought the PS3 was 3.5GHz, it's only 3.2GHz therefore only ~31 times faster.

@LordTheNightKnight

The Wii is single core. Find out what a "unit" is and let me know. I suspect it's just a thread.

 

It's actually my opinion that DMC4 could easily be done on the Wii, or the XBox 1 or PS2 for that matter. Obviously it wouldn't have 720p graphics, less audio detail, and maybe slightly different gameplay to cater for the different controller, with a Classic Controller option maybe. It's up to Capcom if they think it's worth the effort of completely rewriting the game. Maybe if enough Wii owners pester them...


A core is a full on CPU processor. A unit is processor just dedicated to one type of processing. For example, all the 6th gen CPUs had an extra unit built in just to handle floating point calculations, so the cores would be free to handle other things.

The Wii unofficial specs state that in addition to the main core and the floating point unit, it has four to five extra units. Two or three handle the Wii channels, and the other two handle the number crunching beyond what the main core could normally do.

So even though Braodway is a single core processor, it has a bunch of extra mini processors. So it's a multi-unit processor like the Cell (since the SPEs are not full CPU core). Note I am just referring to the state of having more than one unit. I'm not implying it's anywhere near as powerful or fast, just a lot more than the 6th gen systems. 



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Kyros said:
I think we can stop this thread. Two things are obvious, the Wii is more powerful than the GC but it is much nearer to the last-gen competitors than to the 360/PS3. This can be seen in its specs and in the games that are available. Nobody with eyes can argue against that.
This also answers the "Could DMC4 be ported" question. Of course it could but it would look much more like DMC3 than DMC4/PS3,360.

If somebody buys the Wii because of its graphics or processing power or features he picked the wrong console anyway. Nintendo really did concentrate on different things this time. And they are successful beyond believe. Personally I don't understand it, but apparently I am not in the target group.

You speak wisely my friend,I'm sure that games like Resident Evil 5,Silent Hill 5,GTA 4,FF XIII... will show the real difference between the past gen and the actual one,one great example to come its undoubtely RE5,when this game arrives we can compare it with RE4 for Wii.